Then there is the partly separate point that by accepting to talk about immigrants in Europe exclusively through the lens of religion, we fall in the cals of civilisations narrative. That's what my "there are no Muslims in France" quip is trying to convey, ie that the very real issues surrounding these bits of the population are usually not predominantly driven by their religion, but by other factors. The religious factor exists, and of course there are people of the Muslim faith in France, but talking about them, and describing them exclusively as Muslims is, in my view, a political mistake.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes