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Another suggestion is to reach out to Americans from Europe.  manfrommiddleton's post about ideology also hints at the power of foreign influence.  People in the US are not exposed to much real, factual information about the world.  The few who travel outside (for non-business imperialism purposes)are almost uniformally on the left.  

The advent of English-language media coming out of Europe and delivered over the internet is massive.  Target this audience and nurture it.  Anything "European" has built-in appeal for most of the upper middle-class, educated US population under 30.  If you can get these people more radicalized those ideas will carry through the culture rather efficiently.  For now they have mostly become centrists as the opportunity to live a comfortable, glamorous life has been such an easy road.  This is all fading away and there is a void of angry, disappointed and entitled people who are a receptive and influential audience.  The farmers, etc, are organized seperately.

A specific way to encourage the Europeanization of the US is to start treating yourselves as an equal.  The Green City Ranking is very interesting, but it should be merged with the US ranking.  Too often we see data presented as the US alone or the US + the rest of the world.  I want to see more data containing the US and Europe alone.  This kind of subtle change in the way information is presented will have enormous benefits.  As you elevate yourselves to our "equals" in these kinds of ways you'll ultimately elevate your ideas alongside them.  It's not about being better or worse, in fact rankings showing the US cities beating European ones are probably a great idea.  It's about putting us all on equal footing.

by paving on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 07:39:27 PM EST
Actually, it shouldn't be US alone, but a handful of "big countries" ... US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, Australia (looks big on a map - wait, we yanks don't look at maps - uhm, they have fake Ozzie steak-houses here).

DO the EU data aggregation - just frame it as if the EU countries were US states (they aren't far from being US states a la 1800).


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 09:21:55 PM EST
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And at least a couple of them also behave like US states...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 09:30:06 PM EST
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Which is exactly why I suggest framing it only as US + Europe.

The data is diluted, for propaganda purposes, if it contains multiple regions.  The data can be of value if it is from only the two regions.

by paving on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 05:38:39 AM EST
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I don't follow "the data is diluted, for propaganda purposes, if it contains multiple regions". The data looks scarier for propaganda purposes with multiple lines going up and the US line going down or stagnating.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 08:42:29 PM EST
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Sadly that is only the case for people with actual education or intelligence, not a group that needs any more convincing I might add.

What the general public sees is a bunch of exotic cities they can't understand, like "Sydney, Tokyo, Dubai" etc.  All the "foreign-ness" gets in the way.  Europe, on the other hand, is well within the cultural framework of the US (most Americans are descended from immigrants from Europe, usually several countries).  The reason Europe is a target for the right in the US is because it is a valid comparison.  

Take for example the stupid lists that have been everywhere the past few years on yahoo.com and other news site that always list this stuff. Forbes makes half the lists.  It's always "Top 10 cities for blah blah blah" and all that.  People read them but they've grown stale because there's really nothing new there.  Solution?  Add some more cities!  I'd love to see the "Top Cities for Young Singles" list include a bunch of European cities along with the US ones.  Do the same for housing affordability, job growth, etc.  It doesn't matter that the information has no practical value.

by paving on Sun Dec 13th, 2009 at 04:01:18 AM EST
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... lines with one colored line meaning "us'ns". I don't see how the pair of colored lines makes a more dramatic graphic than four or five with only the US heading the wrong way.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 06:11:20 PM EST
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EU stats and comparing the to the US. it really is shocking to see the comparison there, after growing up comparing one european state and the US, how big and rich europe is.

for an america on the skids, there's a powerful hook for your " and this is why we're so awesome" anti-neoliberal argument.

by wu ming on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:19:02 AM EST
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