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Actually, it shouldn't be US alone, but a handful of "big countries" ... US, EU, Russia, China, India, Brazil, Australia (looks big on a map - wait, we yanks don't look at maps - uhm, they have fake Ozzie steak-houses here).

DO the EU data aggregation - just frame it as if the EU countries were US states (they aren't far from being US states a la 1800).


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 09:21:55 PM EST
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And at least a couple of them also behave like US states...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 11th, 2009 at 09:30:06 PM EST
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Which is exactly why I suggest framing it only as US + Europe.

The data is diluted, for propaganda purposes, if it contains multiple regions.  The data can be of value if it is from only the two regions.

by paving on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 05:38:39 AM EST
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I don't follow "the data is diluted, for propaganda purposes, if it contains multiple regions". The data looks scarier for propaganda purposes with multiple lines going up and the US line going down or stagnating.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 08:42:29 PM EST
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Sadly that is only the case for people with actual education or intelligence, not a group that needs any more convincing I might add.

What the general public sees is a bunch of exotic cities they can't understand, like "Sydney, Tokyo, Dubai" etc.  All the "foreign-ness" gets in the way.  Europe, on the other hand, is well within the cultural framework of the US (most Americans are descended from immigrants from Europe, usually several countries).  The reason Europe is a target for the right in the US is because it is a valid comparison.  

Take for example the stupid lists that have been everywhere the past few years on yahoo.com and other news site that always list this stuff. Forbes makes half the lists.  It's always "Top 10 cities for blah blah blah" and all that.  People read them but they've grown stale because there's really nothing new there.  Solution?  Add some more cities!  I'd love to see the "Top Cities for Young Singles" list include a bunch of European cities along with the US ones.  Do the same for housing affordability, job growth, etc.  It doesn't matter that the information has no practical value.

by paving on Sun Dec 13th, 2009 at 04:01:18 AM EST
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... lines with one colored line meaning "us'ns". I don't see how the pair of colored lines makes a more dramatic graphic than four or five with only the US heading the wrong way.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 06:11:20 PM EST
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EU stats and comparing the to the US. it really is shocking to see the comparison there, after growing up comparing one european state and the US, how big and rich europe is.

for an america on the skids, there's a powerful hook for your " and this is why we're so awesome" anti-neoliberal argument.

by wu ming on Sat Dec 12th, 2009 at 10:19:02 AM EST
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