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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 01:11:27 PM EST
China blamed as anger mounts over climate deal | Environment | The Observer

An outbreak of bitter recrimination has erupted among politicians and delegates following the drawing up of the Copenhagen accord for tackling climate change.

The deal, finally hammered out early yesterday, had been expected to commit countries to deep cuts in carbon emissions. In the end, it fell short of this goal after China fought hard against strong US pressure to submit to a regime of international monitoring.

The Chinese prime minister, Wen Jiabao, walked out of the conference at one point, and sent a lowly protocol officer to negotiate with Barack Obama. In the end, a draft agreement put forward by China - and backed by Brazil, India and African nations - commits the world to the broad ambition of preventing global temperatures from rising above 2C. Crucially, however, it does not force any nation to make specific cuts.

"For the Chinese, this was our sovereignty and our national interest," said Xie Zhenhua, head of China's delegation.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 01:21:34 PM EST
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Al Jazeera English - Climate SOS - Copenhagen: A lesson in geopolitics
After two weeks of international deadlock and an all-night marathon negotiating session that produced a thin and toothless accord, the biggest climate talks in history devolved from "Hopenhagen" to "Nopenhagen".

The Copenhagen Accord - brokered at the last minute by Barack Obama, the US president, with China, India, Brazil and South Africa - did not receive universal support from the 193 countries participating in the climate summit.

The accord, which gutted a comprehensive agreement to pay poor countries to protect their forests, since the mass cutting of trees accounts for 20 per cent of global emissions, is not binding and does not have a set date for capping carbon emissions.

It provoked reactions from fury to despair.

Lumumba Stanislaus Dia-ping, Sudan's chief negotiator, compared it to the Holocaust, while Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, referenced the sulfur of hell and suggested that Obama was Satan.

Ian Fry of Tuvalu, the drowning island-nation that has become the poster country for the perils of rising sea levels, likened the accord to "being offered 30 pieces of silver to betray our people and our future".

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 01:22:34 PM EST
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I will personally call this Nopenhagistan.

Strangely, there is nothing about geopolitics in the Al Jazeera piece.

In terms of analysis.

To me the overall reporting indicates that Obama had been negotiating with the agreement of the other developing countries. It will be an easy argument now to say that we (the more pure) would have been more effective if we had a more unified voice. But it looks more like our dear leaders are ready to submit to anything to get laggards on board.

It's time for the EU to start reconsidering running around the backs of the US and China / India in getting a deal.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 08:01:06 PM EST
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with the agreement of the other developing developed countries
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 07:05:21 AM EST
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Failure in Copenhagen: Gunning Full Throttle into the Greenhouse - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

What a disaster. The climate summit in Copenhagen has failed because of the hardball politicking of the United States, China and several other countries -- and because people just can't seem to fathom how catastrophic climate change will be. They probably won't have long to wait before things become a bit clearer.

The global climate summit in Copenhagen has failed. There will be no concrete goals for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Industrialized countries extended no concrete offers of hope to developing countries. Newly industrializing countries, such as India and China, can continue to grow their economies without any checks and balances for the climate.

In the run-up to the conference, scientists, environmentalists and politicians alike called it one of the most important in history. But now it's just a missed opportunity. Likewise, it might just be one of the last of its kind in the battle against climate change.

It took governments from around the world 17 years to come together for this summit in Copenhagen -- 17 years of talking, seemingly endless negotiations, ideological debates, delays and maneuvering. It's been 17 years since the first climate-related meeting, held in Rio in 1992. It's been 17 years of searching for solutions to confront the threats resulting from climate change. And this is what we're left with. Many of the hopes that had been building up since 1992 have now been shattered.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 01:23:02 PM EST
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Isn't it obvious we need to keep government out of this, and hand climate management over to the markets?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 07:43:14 AM EST
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yup, that's the way.

i mean, every crisis is an opportunity, right?

how are they going to sell us clean air and water unless they make most of it too filthy to consume?

how are shares in arms companies going to keep climbing unless we keep warring?

how is big pharma going to prosper if we learn to be healthy?

and who's going to buy media sources full of agenda-driven lies if the internet thrives?

gets ya hooked on the junk then sells ya the cure...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 09:06:25 AM EST
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Yeah, it's all a big conspiracy.

Human evil is a more comforting thought than human stupidity, I guess.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 09:10:22 AM EST
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it doesn't exactly feel random, ya know?

as for being comforting, i wish...

besides evil is just stupidity concentrated to the nth degree, no? nothing metaphysical here!

or perhaps evil is unaccountable stupidity with a superiority complex.

so good is accountable intelligence with a sense of proportion.

works for me...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 02:05:44 PM EST
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Does this feel random, exactly?

2D poisson process

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 02:30:30 PM EST
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what's that? the political axis thingy? all i'm seeing on the screen is a collection of blob points!

and yes, it does look random, what am i missing?

Eventually physical reality trumps narrative. It can just take a long time. Derrick Jensen

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:33:26 PM EST
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The name of the picture is "poisson.png", which suggests it's a Poisson distribution (unless Migeru misnamed it to fool us).
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:38:06 PM EST
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Could be a Poisson distribution ... could be a whole bunch of things.  

Without the algorithm or knowing the dependent and independent axises ... it's semantically null.

Thinking about it a tad more ...

It could also be "semantically reflective" of the epistemological presuppositions of the viewer, analyzer.  Humans really like patterns, ya know.

by ATinNM on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:49:29 PM EST
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Barack Obama's climate deal unravels at last moment - Times Online

The United Nations climate change conference ended in recrimination yesterday without reaching a clear deal on emissions targets.

After a stormy session in Copenhagen, in which a vociferous anti-American minority brought the talks close to collapse, most countries agreed simply to "take note" of a watered-down agreement brokered by President Barack Obama and supported by Britain.

This accord -- which had been drawn up in discussions with China and 30 or so other countries on Friday -- sets a target of limiting global warming to a maximum of 2C above pre-industrial times.

Above this temperature, scientists say, the world would start to experience dangerous changes, including floods, droughts and rising seas.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 01:26:20 PM EST
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the "important" people won't be effected ... the superwealthy, the politicians, the corporate elites.  They'll live in their sterile GUARDED Dubai-like towers in air conditioned luxury while the rest of the world's population suffers and slowly dies.  That IS the plan.  Too bad species like polar bears are doomed except in select zoos.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 06:56:29 AM EST
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Obama's `Unprecedented' Climate Deal Delays Solutions (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

Dec. 19 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. President Barack Obama called a climate change agreement with China and about 25 other nations an "unprecedented" move to slow global warming. Environmental groups and at least five developing nations called it a failure.

The accord, which pushes off signing a treaty for at least a year, is "a first step," Obama said yesterday before leaving Copenhagen, where he spent 14 hours cobbling together the agreement in meetings with world leaders, and addressing 8,000 envoys from 193 nations.

Delegates from the countries failed to reach consensus on the accord today after discussing it through the night, agreeing instead to "take note" of the document, or recognize that it exists. The agreement seeks voluntary cuts in greenhouse-gas emissions that scientists blame for global warming without binding countries to take action.

"The meeting was a disaster," Lars-Erik Liljelund, the director general of Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt's office, said in an interview today. "The process needs to be changed because if we continue like this, we won't be any further a year from now."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 01:28:25 PM EST
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Joss Garman: Copenhagen - Historic failure that will live in infamy - Commentators, Opinion - The Independent

The most progressive US president in a generation comes to the most important international meeting since the Second World War and delivers a speech so devoid of substance that he might as well have made it on speaker-phone from a beach in Hawaii. His aides argue in private that he had no choice, such is the opposition on Capitol Hill to any action that could challenge the dominance of fossil fuels in American life. And so the nation that put a man on the Moon can't summon the collective will to protect men and women back here on Earth from the consequences of an economic model and lifestyle choice that has taken on the mantle of a religion.

Then a Chinese premier who is in the process of converting his Communist nation to that new faith (high-carbon consumer capitalism) takes such umbrage at Barack Obama's speech that he refuses to meet - sulking in his hotel room, as if this were a teenager's house party instead of a final effort to stave off the breakdown of our biosphere.

Late in the evening, the two men meet and cobble together a collection of paragraphs that they call a "deal", although in reality it has all the meaning and authority of a bus ticket, not that it stops them signing it with great solemnity.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 01:31:18 PM EST
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oh. sssssnap.

"This deal crosses so many of the red lines laid out by Europe before this summit started that there are scarlet skid marks across the Bella Centre"

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 04:09:40 PM EST
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Yup, that just about sums it up. A large knees up for the self-important private jet crowd.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 04:14:20 PM EST
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Do none of Obama's advisors realize that we are already about half way to the +2C increase since the 19th century. The real question is if it is even possible to hold the increase to +2C.  Certainly not at the rate we are going. But they would probably be concerned that saying we are likely within a degree centigrade of losing control over our future would be alarmist.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Dec 20th, 2009 at 10:52:21 PM EST
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>World must prepare for climate migration, IOM warns AFP, via The Raw Story w/ H/T to Naked Capitalism

The International Organization for Migration warned on Friday the world must prepare for a mass increase in climate-linked migration as leaders battled to save a deal on global warming in Copenhagen.

"Climate change and environmental degradation are already triggering migration or displacement all over the planet," the IOM warned on the critical last day of the Denmark summit, which coincides with International Migrants Day.

Right now, "it is the world's poorest countries that are bearing the brunt" of the migration, said the Geneva-based body, calling for leaders to make "greater efforts, beyond Copenhagen," to tackle the complex issue.



As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 01:10:32 AM EST
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Where can the Chinese go when thier system falls apart ? The North and West are already suffering desertification. If the glaciers give out the Yangtse may suffer critical loss of volume during growing season when they need the water most.

The 3 gorges dams, which are already silting up, won't save them.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:51:12 AM EST
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Do you mean the Chinese population or the Chinese govt. elites/military?  I suspect the latter will do fine and they're running the show.  The rest are thrown under the bus.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 06:59:43 AM EST
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Siberia?

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 07:32:06 AM EST
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