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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:09:27 PM EST
Stop the royal secrecy | Graham Smith | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

The news this morning that the information commissioner has ruled in favour of disclosure of royal correspondence could have profound repercussions for the monarchy and the British constitution.

When the Freedom of Information Act was introduced the monarchy was simply not recognised as a public body, so the remit of the act failed to get past the gates of Buckingham Palace. Correspondence between the palace and public authorities that are covered by the act was exempted under section 37. There was, however, a public interest test, meaning that if it could be demonstrated that it was in the public interest to release information then the information must be released.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:17:33 PM EST
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Personally I think the royals deserve the same right to privacy as any other person. however the relationship between the money that she is granted as expenses for her "job" and what happens to the money earned by the vast estates they own is something that requires, if not public examination, then at least codification in an open manner.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 05:03:01 PM EST
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The Queen is Head of State so one may assume the Monarchy is still part of the government.  

?

Somewhat fortunate for the British political system the Liz and Chuck are political doofi.  If they had played their cards better, establishing a base, and so on they might have been able to parley themselves into being power brokers or even major players.

by ATinNM on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 05:59:52 PM EST
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Great Britain has an unwritten, evolving constitution based on law and precedent.  Were the Royals to obviously attempt to build a political base and to intervene in elective politics that would overturn a century of law and precedent and would likely constitute political suicide for The Monarchy.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 10:33:31 PM EST
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They have a base, in the uniquely British flock of both minor and major legacy aristos, and some understated but far from irrelevant links to Parliament. Phil and Brenda can't propose legislation, but they can hint that actions that adversely affect their interests may be unwelcome. And as the aristos have been finding it hard to keep the old pile repaired, they've been rubbing shoulders - and allegedly other body parts too - with the cream of the old-Etonian business world.

So - not primary players, but they have vast piles of cash, property and contacts, which shouldn't be underestimated, and which make anything as vulgar as a party machine somewhat redundant.  

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 at 12:28:02 PM EST
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BBC News - Brown to face three televised election debates

The UK looks set to have its first ever televised leader election debates after a deal was struck between the three big parties and the main broadcasters.

Labour's Gordon Brown, Conservative leader David Cameron and Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg have agreed to go head-to-head in a series of three debates.

Each clash will last about 90 minutes, with the first shown on ITV, the second on Sky, and the third on the BBC.

But the SNP and Plaid Cymru say they should be allowed to take part too.

Live presidential debates in the US and other countries have provided many of the key moments of election campaigns and are seen as having raised voters' interest.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:22:38 PM EST
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BBC News - Poland police question men over stolen Auschwitz sign

The "Arbeit macht frei" sign stolen from Auschwitz in southern Poland has been found in the north and five men are being questioned by police.

The five suspects, aged in their 20s and 30s, were not members of a neo-Nazi group, Krakow police said.

The metal sign from the main gate, which symbolises for many the atrocities of Nazi Germany, had been cut into three pieces, they added.

A major search was launched after the sign was stolen before dawn on Frida



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:23:58 PM EST
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It's not often I'm shocked by some event, but symbolically this was an outrageous crime.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 05:04:26 PM EST
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It is possible that it was committed by young dumb-asses who had no real idea what they were messing with. If so, they are about to find out. There might be a trip to Jerusalem in their future.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 10:37:33 PM EST
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BBC News - EU adopts bigger budget for 2010

he European Parliament has approved a 122.9bn euro (£110bn) EU budget for 2010 - nearly half of which is to go to agriculture and natural resources.

It is a 6% increase on the 2009 budget, which was worth 116bn euros.

Next year the EU is due to conduct a major review of the budget. The UK wants to see a cut in farm subsidies.

In 2010 an extra 2.4bn euros will go towards economic recovery projects, with the energy sector and broadband development the priorities.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:24:22 PM EST
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Plod to retain personal data from DNA innocents * The Register

Police will continue to retain the personal details of everyone they arrest, despite a human rights ruling meaning the DNA profiles they are linked to must be deleted.

The European Court of Human Rights said last year that DNA data should not be indefinitely retained from those who have not been charged or convicted.

The government plans to delete some such profiles, hoping to bring the UK into line with the law, but it's emerged they do not plan to delete the accompanying identity data on the Police National Computer.

In 2005, changes to DNA procedures meant a PNC record was created each time a sample was taken, The Observer reports. These records won't be deleted as part of the response to the human rights ruling.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 03:33:48 PM EST
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MsMarmitelover: Down and out from Paris to London...
Guest post by my sister who was trapped on the Eurostar train last night. These are her observations and experiences:


My journey from Paris to London this weekend:
I was supposed to get the ill fated 9.13pm train from Paris on Friday night but I missed it due to train delays from Lyon.
I stayed the night in Paris at a hotel which was provided for by a Eurostar voucher. We were told to return early Saturday morning.
At 5.30 am, I waited by the Eurostar desk at Gare du Nord for the 7.13 am train. The staff at that point knew that a train had been stuck all night and didn't know when a train would be running again. We were repeatedly told to 'go away' and come back the next day 'maybe there would be a train'. Passengers responded with 'Go where?'. Staff had no information.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 06:53:01 PM EST
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Looks like no one in the entire system has ever considered that they might massively screw up.  No contingency plans, just starting to think things through. Perhaps this is a testament to the prior efficiency of the system, but I am very surprised at this revelation.

Does anyone know if they have event recorders on the trains?  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Dec 21st, 2009 at 11:02:54 PM EST
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Perhaps this is a testament to the prior efficiency of the system, but I am very surprised at this revelation.

Exactly, it has never failed like this in its many years of operation, note that nobody is saying anything about the huge delays at heathrow or on the highways, those are as expected.

by njh on Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 at 03:49:54 PM EST
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British Army 'waterboarded' suspects in 70s | UK news | The Guardian

Evidence that the British army subjected prisoners in Northern Ireland to waterboarding during interrogations in the 1970s is emerging after one of the alleged victims launched an appeal against his conviction for murder.

Liam Holden became the last person in the United Kingdom to be sentenced to hang after being convicted in 1973 of the murder of a soldier, largely on the basis of an unsigned confession. His death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment and he spent 17 years behind bars.

The jury did not believe Holden's insistence that he made the confession only because he had been held down by members of the Parachute Regiment, whom he says placed a towel over his face before pouring water from a bucket over his nose and mouth, giving him the impression that he was drowning.

But now the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) has referred Holden's case to the court of appeal in Belfast after unearthing new evidence, and because of doubts about "the admissibility and reliability" of his confession. The commission says it believes "there is a real possibility" his conviction will be quashed. After a preliminary hearing earlier this month, Holden's appeal was adjourned to the new year.

However, the account that Holden gave at his trial is remarkably similar to those that have emerged since the CIA began using waterboarding techniques while interrogating al-Qaida suspects during the so-called war on terror.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 at 04:05:38 AM EST
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From the Independent
Meanwhile, by 52 to 44 per cent, the public agrees with the statement that "a Conservative Government would mainly represent the interests of the well-off rather than ordinary people".
But they still plan to vote for them.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 at 12:59:19 PM EST
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well, it stands to reason, innit?

they're our betters, or they wouldn't be rich, would they?

~Government budget deficits are not nearly as dangerous as the deficits we have created in vital and complex natural systems.~ Naomi Klein.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 at 03:28:36 PM EST
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