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Right, I thought of putting that under Klatsch, but we are talking about the Secretary of State for Family and Solidarity (whatever that means)...

Nadine Morano wants her young Muslims clean and tidy




"Moi, ce que je veux du jeune musulman, quand il est français, c'est qu'il aime son pays, c'est qu'il trouve un travail, c'est qu'il ne parle pas le verlan, qu'il ne mette pas sa casquette à l'envers."What I want, myself, from the young Muslim, when he is French, is that he loves his country, it's that he finds a job, it's that he doesn't speak "Verlan" (youth speak that alters the order of syllables), that he does not wear his cap back to front
La commune vosgienne avait été choisie par l'organisateur de la soirée, le député (UMP) Jean-Jacques Gaultier, parce qu'elle est la ville natale de l'écrivain nationaliste et antidreyfusard Maurice BarrèsThe town in Vosges had been chosen by the organiser of the event, UMP deputy Jean-Jacques Gaultier, because it is the birthplace of the nationalist and anti-Dreyfus Maurice Barrès

(As an aside, I still need to figure out how to get tables that look as good as the ones I usually see, and how not to have a huge gap between the earlier link and the table).

Of course, none of that is accidental, it is an electoral ploy to get the far-right, Sarko's true constituency, to the urns. But it's terrible to see that France is turning into USA.

Look, what this bulldog (bullbitch should I say?) is barking for wouldn't be asked of a non-Muslim. Should I mention the unemployment rate for youth? That my brother speaks Verlan (yes, it annoys me as a lover of well spoken languages, French included, but how is that relevant to religion or citizenship?), that no-one ever complained that top French tennis players often wear their caps back to front.
We are, may I remind you, talking about the Secretary of State for Family and Solidarity

She was answering a young man asking about the compatibility of Islam with the Republic. Knowing how UMP meetings are organised these days, you can be certain that:
-The man was a UMP militant
-He was requested to ask the question.

And see the Maurice Barrès symbol: he supported the imprisonment of clearly innocent capitaine Dreyfus, who was chosen as a scapegoat because he was a Jew, and is quoted "the nation is stronger in the soul of a rooted than in that of an uprooted". So that's what it's all about. Justice does not matter, but what we are after are people who are not curious of the rest of the world, who feel threatened (and therefore bully) anyone who is different.

And it's now all about Islam. Hello, 50 years ago the ancestors of UMP claimed that Algeria (very Muslim Algeria) WAS France. France is supposed to be secular, so what's with the constant religious reference.

Further in the article, we learn that Justice (Justice!) Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie wants to prevent someone from being French if his wife is fully veiled. So they see Islam as such a disease that now it extends beyond the person to the immediate family. Nice.

Sarkozy is the worst thing to happen to France since 1944. Maybe I'll make that statement into my signature.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 06:42:00 AM EST
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Well, obviously your brother is either a crypto-muslim or is  poor innocent  properly bred frenchman led into bad ways by muslims taking advantage of him. Either way, it's the muslims' fault.

I'm expecting an explanation soon of how the muslims are puppets of International Jewry and the Freemasons. That's pretty much all that's missing as we head straight for a replay of the 1920's, 30's and 40's.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 07:01:04 AM EST
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European Tribune - Comments - European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 15 December
What I want, myself, from the young Muslim, when he is French, is that he ... doesn't speak "Verlan"
How is that compatible with being "a young French"?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 07:17:33 AM EST
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Exactly. It bears no resemblance to reality.

I think she could have summarised her thoughts by "I want them to be idealised UMP militants, or out of the country".

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 08:55:22 AM EST
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Mrs Morano's requirements do not apply to young Catholics, young Jews or Buddhists, or even to French tennis players like Richard Gasquet.

See, it's only young Muslims who are a threat to the French National IdentityTM. Thanks to Mrs Morano for making that clear.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 09:23:21 AM EST
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I must admit I had Gasquet in mind, but in order to avoid a digression on his recent problems with a cocaine test (that was so light that for once it probably really was accidental, but anyway) I generalised to tennis players -after all Paul-Henri Mathieu does the same.

You might argue that for a while, Gasquet was without a job, too. And all tennis players bar Benneteau seem to love their country only enough to visit it, while holding residence elsewhere.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 09:46:46 AM EST
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Cyrille:
all tennis players bar Benneteau seem to love their country only enough to visit it, while holding residence elsewhere
I suspect the UMP would have no trouble with Muslims loving France but living in Algeria.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 10:18:26 AM EST
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France-loving Muslims in Algeria are not bogeymen. What would the UMP do to hold on to its electoral base? Jews, Freemasons, and Protestants don't really work any more.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 11:03:32 AM EST
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Cyrille:
how to get tables that look as good as the ones I usually see

Fais-les en verlan, tes bletas. ;)

Well, in fact: if you wrote the mark-up yourself, avoid spaces between the link and the table, and within the table mark-up itself (except for within the text, of course). So, for example:

...clean and tidy><a><p><table><tr><td>"Moi, ce que je veux d'un jeune...

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 09:28:29 AM EST
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That should be

...clean and tidy</a><p><table><tr><td>"Moi, ce que je veux d'un jeune...

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 09:31:27 AM EST
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Spurious whitespace can usually be removed by switching from Auto-format to HTML formatted when posting a comment. This then requires explicitly using line breaks, paragraph breaks and italics/bold HTML tags. Also, use preview!

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 09:31:36 AM EST
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I did use preview -but none of the changes I tried changed anything.
I'll try harder ;-)

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi
by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 09:42:20 AM EST
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Cyrille:
(As an aside, I still need to figure out how to get tables that look as good as the ones I usually see, and how not to have a huge gap between the earlier link and the table).

I would not get them nearly as good without TribExt.

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Do you browse the web on Firefox? Then you can download TribExt, a nifty little add-on, written by ET user someone, to navigate around European Tribune easier. It can also be used on Booman Tribune and Daily Kos.

Though one of the nifty functions, using automatic translations as the first step in translation, does not work for me right now, it is still very very good.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 01:47:29 PM EST
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