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People did not, as a rule, move around as much. Moreover, as soon as the mine or factory was set up, the factory did not tend to move around very much.

By contrast, today you can gut the factory, ship the machines halfway around the world and put them in a factory there. And your engineers will not take a month to get there, but a couple of days.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Dec 10th, 2009 at 12:15:25 AM EST
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We're also forgetting capital controls, the fact that financial capital was also aptly assumed to be tied to its home country and that free movement of capital has become pretty much complete (and, moreover, a part of "free 'trade'" agreements in the last 30 years or so).

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 10th, 2009 at 04:47:52 AM EST
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I think a persuasive argument can be made that British financial capital, at least, was not seriously constrained by those capital controls. Probably not French either.

- Jake

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by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Dec 10th, 2009 at 04:51:07 AM EST
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I think a persuasive argument can be made that British financial capital, at least, was not seriously constrained by those capital controls.

In Ricardo's time there was no need. The opportunities were right there in Britain. Plus, until 1815 there was the minor annoyance of the Napoleonic Wars. This probably remained the case at least through mid century. Why send your money overseas if there are ample opportunities at home, where you can keep a close eye on it and influence the government through known and traditional means?

By 1880 there was a need by those who held the capital, and who had great influence over the government, to find profitable investment opportunities abroad lest they cause the price of labor in Britain to rise and the return on their existing investments to decline. So long as they could manipulate the government into providing basic security in a destination country, such as India or South Africa, on pretext of colonial rivalry or "national interest" they could manufacture rails and locomotives in the U.K. from existing plants, build and operate railroads, etc. in India and South Africa, thereby bringing vast hinterlands into the reach, through their control, of "the market."

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 10th, 2009 at 05:49:02 PM EST
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I'd like to see more evidence of this. The railroads in Colorado were built (1880s) largely with English money.
by asdf on Thu Dec 10th, 2009 at 09:38:22 AM EST
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That's 60 years after Ricardo, already in the middle of the Long Depression and after financial capitalism had already replaced the entrepreneurial capitalism of Smith/Ricardo, at least in capital-intensive sectors such as railways. What Veblen wrote in 1904 about railways and finance is not that different from what Minsky was writing in 1986, but both are a world apart from what Ricardo was writing about.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 10th, 2009 at 10:23:02 AM EST
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U.S. laws and institutions were sufficiently similar to those of the U.K. that British investors were generally comfortable investing in high potential return projects in the USA, not to mention Canada.  But they were also very active, for instance, in Argentina and Chile as well.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Dec 10th, 2009 at 05:51:56 PM EST
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I believe russian railroads were similarly built with french money.

(This was also during the the first period of globalization so Mig's comment applies similarly to it.)

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 06:15:55 PM EST
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