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Why not? If there is no demand for a product, it will not be produced. If there is no supply of gasoline, then clearly there will be no demand for automobiles.

No law of physics prevents their production, of course, so in that sense it's not a tradeoff. But no law of physics prevents you from showing up naked at work. Nevertheless, we can say with some confidence that it will not happen in any economically interesting magnitude.

The issue is the use of mental tools for organizing thinking.  The pedagogical purpose of the PPF is distinguish thinking about physical limitations on production as distinct demand limitations in order to be able to identify supply limitations and demand limitations, so it just confuses people to add a demand limitation back into the PPF.  There's no reason to even make a graph with a PPF if it's not a picture about tradeoffs in solely production possibilities. Demand gets brought into the PPF picture with an additional constraint drawn in some way on the graph. Then you've organized your thoughts about two distinct pieces of a complete argument: limitations due to physical tradeoffs, and limitations due to the quantity demanded for things being different at different prices faced by consumers in terms of the physical elements making up a produced good.

by santiago on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 12:01:37 PM EST
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Then you've organized your thoughts about two distinct pieces of a complete argument: limitations due to physical tradeoffs, and limitations due to the quantity demanded for things being different at different prices faced by consumers in terms of the physical elements making up a produced good.

I don't understand why that's a bad thing. From the point of view of what is actually produced, all these constraints matter. Attempting to put them all into a model and then examine the remaining degrees of freedom strikes me as a worthwhile exercise.

Perhaps "production possibility frontier" is a misnomer, though.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 12:13:16 PM EST
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It's not a bad thing. But it's usually helpful for clarity's sake to isolate which constraints are due to limitations in technology or actual, physical availability of things, such as fossil fuels, and which limitations are due to utility preferences among individuals (aka, demand). Regardless of the utility preferences of individuals, there may exist a hard cap on availability of resources, which truncates the shape of a production possibility function. That is what I think you are arguing regarding fossil fuels and the limitations of fiscal stimulus against a hard cap on energy resources. Demand doesn't even have to be addressed at all here.
by santiago on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 12:29:27 PM EST
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It does not have to be addressed, but it provides a mechanism for resource constraints in one sector to reach into other sectors in ways that are not immediately apparent from their input/output tables.

If one sector runs into a hard upper limit to production, leading to scarcity-induced price inflation in that commodity, demand for all complementary commodities will decline. This has dramatic consequences, in that a fairly small number of resource constraints can seriously hamper a modern, highly interconnected economy. And this is not obvious from a purely supply-side picture.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 12:47:54 PM EST
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I don't disagree. I just think you might be asking too much of a humble PPF graph to try to make argument, thus resulting in confusion. I think it would be clearer to leave just the supply side picture to the PPF, which is what it was made for, and allow another graph to show the demand side effects, similar to the way macro econ students learn to use related but different IS-LM graphics regarding interest rates and aggregate demand.
by santiago on Tue Dec 15th, 2009 at 01:36:53 PM EST
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