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I remember having made similar arguments to the French left and other pseudo-pro-Europeans that promoted the "non" on various occasions over the past 4 years, so I'm comfortable that I'm an equal opportunity basher of the EU snob crowd.

Aren't you the one not happy when you are taken to task for criticizing someone because, you respond, you also criticize the other side?

I'm so pleased to learn that I whine.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 06:52:47 AM EST
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"Too late" is a pretty bizarre response.  Too late for what?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 06:55:57 AM EST
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Too late for
It's time we put the Lisbon Treaty behind us and started working more closely with our partners in Europe to make the EU work for effectively to deal with an economic crisis unprecedented in the history of the EU.


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 07:21:33 AM EST
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to make the EU work for effectively to deal with an economic crisis unprecedented in the history of the EU.

Well, given Sarko's and Merkel's responses to the problem it's clearly too late for that.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 07:37:03 AM EST
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Maybe Lisbon is a red herring and simply an excuse for inaction. The EU could be doing all kinds of stuff under Nice if the elites had the political will. But they don't, which explains why Lisbon still hasn't passed.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 07:23:45 AM EST
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The failure of the referendum destroyed the legitimacy of political action at the EU level. So all you get is inter-governmental crap, driven by the lamest common political priority of the day, and with only vague pretenses at being a "good European" (there's no mileage in that).

The "non" of the left ensured that we would have no more than that. It was the predicted result of that vote. I don't take any pleasure in saying it, because it's a shitty situation, but I was right.

Would we have had more neoliberalism and national selfishness in the past 4 years with a "oui"?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 07:50:24 AM EST
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Probably more neoliberalism would have been implemented. It's hard to imagine more national selfishness.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 16th, 2009 at 08:39:28 AM EST
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