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[Torygraph Alert] Germany may rescue debt-laden EU members (by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on 17 Feb 2009)
Germany has acknowledged for the first time that it may have to rescue eurozone states in acute difficulties, marking a radical shift in policy by the anchor nation of Europe's monetary union.

Finance minister Peer Steinbruck said it would be intolerable to let fellow EMU members fall victim to the global financial crisis. "We have a number of countries in the eurozone that are clearly getting into trouble on their payments," he said. "Ireland is in a very difficult situation.

"The euro-region treaties don't foresee any help for insolvent states, but in reality the others would have to rescue those running into difficulty."



Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:06:02 AM EST
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Next stop: capital controls.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:09:27 AM EST
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capital controls...does that mean countries freezing bank accounts, or new laws about moving cash from country to country in the EU?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:40:07 AM EST
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I would have thought controls on movement in and out of the Eurozone.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:41:57 AM EST
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Capital exit taxes. There are several possible scopes for this: national, Eurozone, EU, EEA. The narrower, the easier to do politically but the harder to fit into the EU treaties.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:58:01 AM EST
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See Krugman on capital controls (1999).

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 05:03:27 AM EST
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Bloomberg.com: Europe

Germany and France may be forced to contemplate the bailout of entire nations rather than just individual banks as European government budgets buckle under the weight of recession.

German Finance Minister Peer Steinbrueck became the first senior policy maker to broach the topic this week, saying some of the 16 euro nations are "getting into difficulties" and may need help. French officials are also concerned about market tensions as the cost of insuring Irish, Greek and Spanish debt against default rises to records and bond spreads widen.

The nightmare for Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy is that widening deficits will prompt investors to shun the debt of some countries, sparking a region-wide crisis. While few investors are yet forecasting any defaults, the mere risk of it may prompt the bloc's two richest economies to ignore the European Central Bank and announce their willingness to come to the rescue.

The problem many Eurozone countries face is that they need the ECB to buy their debt in order to provide the cash for fiscal stimulus. Germany, say, could buy Spanish bonds, but up to a limit and this doesn't expand the Eurozone monetary base, just sees money shuffling among Eurozone countries.

Eventually even Germany will run out of funds to help fiscal stimulus in weaker Eurozone economies and the ECB will have to whip out of its monetarist slumber.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:22:27 AM EST
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Don't you mean weaker parts of the Eurozone economy?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:37:16 AM EST
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Weaker Eurozone treasuries. Fiscal policy is still the preserve on EU member states.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:39:31 AM EST
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Which is clearly an error. Is it even faintly viable in the long-run?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:41:07 AM EST
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We're in a crisis, we'll see what emerges at the other end.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 04:58:32 AM EST
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...and thus, with a whisper, the end of nations was announced.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 07:26:52 AM EST
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is still the preserve on of EU member states


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 05:00:00 AM EST
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is no longer predicting doom?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 05:36:41 AM EST
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he's predicting solidarity.

[Europe.Is.Doomed™ Alert]

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 05:39:50 AM EST
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Aiieeeeeeeeeee! Not SOLIDARITY! What will we do? Help us!

No, wait, don't help us. That would be bad.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 05:42:52 AM EST
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