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I would love to see them seriously asking for Independence, Haiti is such a great role model.

ils ont du culot.

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Wed Feb 18th, 2009 at 07:19:17 PM EST
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the problem here, is that they could also go for the Caïman islands model.... then, you'd be screwed.

A free fox in a free henhouse!
by Xavier in Paris on Thu Feb 19th, 2009 at 06:11:14 AM EST
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Nope,

I think the Caiman islands work only the way they work, because they are associated with the UK. Why else wouldn't lot of small poor islands, of which there is quite a number, go the caiman way?
While Gibraltar, Isle of Man, Jersey,... (all the UK associated) do it...

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Sun Feb 22nd, 2009 at 08:13:45 PM EST
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fredouil:
ils ont du culot.

Folks living on these supposed "paradise" islands who are struggling to make both ends meet with minimum salaries lower than in the mainland with prices quite a bit higher, might want to return the compliment.

Few people know much about the history - particularly economic history - of the French Antilles that led to the present crisis. So, yes, at first glance, it sounds like yet another case of "send us more (taxpayers) money". And that's a narrative that some, here in mainland France, are surely not too unhappy to see develop as an alternative to a closer examination of the roots of the crisis.

BTW, I found an interesting take from Alexandre Delaigue on the Econoclaste blog:

econoclaste - Le blog d'econoclaste

On lit que ces facteurs certes existent, mais qu'ils sont aggravés par le fait que les productions locales sont "étouffées". Mais étouffées par quoi? Toutes les caractéristiques que l'on lit sur l'économie antillaise hurlent en même temps "dutch disease"; la situation dans laquelle quelques secteurs étouffent le développement manufacturier local. Et toutes les activités qui étouffent le reste ont une chose en commun : elles font l'objet de subventions publiques massives. Citons la culture de la banane, archisubventionnée depuis les années 60 et bénéficiant du régime ACP; les investissements touristiques dopés par la loi Pons; et de façon générale les massifs transferts en provenance de la métropole, qui produisent exactement l'effet de dutch disease constaté pour l'aide extérieure en économie du développement; on pourra se référer aux travaux de Rajan et Subramanian sur ce sujet.One reading could be that these factors are existing, but the aggravating factor is that the local production is "strangled". But strangled by what? All the characteristics one can read about the Antilles economy are crying "Dutch Disease"; the situation where a few sectors crowd out the local manufacturing sector. And all the activities that are strangling the others have one thing in common: they are massively subsidized. Let's mention banana farming, over-subsidized since the 1960s and benefiting from the ACP regime; tourism investment doped by the Pons law; and generally speaking, all the massive transfers coming from mainland France that end up producing the Dutch disease that is also noted in developing economies; one will refer to Rajan and Subramanian work on this subject (PDF).
Toutes ces politiques publiques ont été encouragées systématiquement, à gauche comme à droite, en métropole comme par les élus locaux, békés ou créoles. Il n'est pas du tout étonnant qu'elles produisent l'atrophie des secteurs non subventionnés, le renchérissement des prix, et de fortes inégalités; c'est exactement ce que l'on s'attend à observer avec le dutch disease.All these public policies have been systematically encouraged, from the left as well as from the right, in mainland France as well as by local elected officials, "békés" [white descendants of plantations (and slaves) owners] or créoles. The shrinking of non-subsidized sectors, the massive price increases as well as strong inequalities therefore come as no surprise; that's what one would expect to find out with Dutch disease.

If your French is any good, read the whole thing, as well as the two links to the Geographe du Monde blog. Translation is grunt work...

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sun Feb 22nd, 2009 at 11:27:56 AM EST
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His french is plenty good...being french, which explains the comment imho.

Fai de bèn a Bertrand, te lou rendra en cagant
by redstar on Sun Feb 22nd, 2009 at 11:44:29 AM EST
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Yep, the dominant narrative...

My comment was more for our non-French speaking fellow ETribbers. Deciphering the Antilles situation is complex enough if you can read French, if you're limited to English language publication...

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Sun Feb 22nd, 2009 at 01:19:02 PM EST
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