Here is an extract from solveig's penultimate comment in that thread.

Solveig:

You seem to have a gift for misrepresenting what I say.  

Jerome a Paris:

when you bring up stuff which is obviously false, or that basic research, as demonstrated by Mig, can easily prove to be wrong, especially when you hide behind "but she's someone I like" as a defense.

If you read the thread, Mig has not proved anything that was not already in the article I unfortunately did not translate - it states that the final decision has not yet been made - and that is the conclusion Mig came to, as well, if I read him correctly.  

I also linked to another article on the topic from 4 December, where it states that the minister was in Brussels to make sure Norway can keep its guarantees - in other words, she went to participate in the EU decision-making process.  Why would she bother about travelling to Brussels if there was no possibility Norway could be obliged to reduce its guarantees?    

The precise word used in relation to your approach to solveig in that thread is a red herring. It was not right. That was what made me angry then, and the fact that you still can't see it, I find deeply disappointing.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 at 05:57:27 PM EST
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it was Magnifico making a joke about the EU being seen as an imperial project by some countries, mentioning the UK. solveig chimed in, saying that Norwegians thought the same and gave the example of the (of course imaginary, as amply demonstrated by Mig) decision supposedly under way to force Norway to reduce its deposit guarantee. Note: the context was EU imperialism, from the very start, and the claim that was made was false , as the topic (bringing the number down for Norway) was never discussed

And when the facts crumbled (which I see you still deny) you went for the bully theme : "pick on someone your size" - who else is on that list of yours of people too stupid to argue for themselves, so I know who not to burden with facts?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 at 06:17:32 PM EST
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Jerome a Paris:
you went for the bully theme : "pick on someone your size"

I reacted when my partner was attacked: I am sure you would do the same. I had no particular interest in the thread 'til then.

Jerome a Paris:

who else is on that list of yours of people too stupid to argue for themselves, so I know who not to burden with facts?

?

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 at 06:29:36 PM EST
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Jerome, please!  

No decision has been made yet on the matter of EU/EEA bank guarantees.  I can assure you it would have been in the Norwegian papers.  Mig did NOT demonstrate or prove that I was wrong. He only found that the decision had not been made.  

   

by Solveig (link2ageataol.com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 at 06:33:01 PM EST
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By all conventional understanding of English, Mig HAS demonstrated, that you was wrong.

Here


...and the Norwegians, may I add - and that's without being members.

Interference from the EU keeps wrecking good systems Norwegians have had for years, and the EU is therefore viewed by many as an 'empire' whose rules we are forced to follow.

The present battle is about the guarantees on bank deposits.  Norway is now asked (forced?)to reduce their present level (2 mill. NoK, which has been in place since the bank crises in the 90's) to the level recently set by the EU countries.

No wonder the 'no' side in Norway does not even have to do anything to see their numbers grow :-)  

Reading this, I
- would assume, that a decision has already been made, that the EU wants Norway to reduce its guarantee
[And that is exactly what Mig digged up was false]

- get very angry, as Norway gets huge economic advantages from free trade [the 'default' of course is closed boarders] with the EU while the EU gets relatively little from that, they are still complaining, when the wants (or even doesn't want) some regulation to have the common market working
[Of course not your fault if you don't understand this, but may contribute to an aggressive response, if the exploiters claim to be victims]

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Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 at 06:58:01 PM EST
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That said, is a difference on some issues really a reason to destroy personal relationship?

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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 at 06:58:55 PM EST
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Exactly.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Feb 23rd, 2009 at 08:24:36 PM EST
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