I don't think these category pairs are completely over-lapping. I don't even know if I am inside the system. I am an idealist revolutionary (;-)). I am probably also a technocrat, and probably part of Jérôme's "core group". And at least my object blogging seems widely enjoyed by the non-technocrat, non-science-ist, non-core-group people; who BTW can be both idealist and realist resp. incrementalist or revolutionary.

So I don't see these dualist characterisations as helpful at all.

There are two kinds of people: those that accept dualist characterisations, and those that don't! ;)

Snark aside, my point was not to split people, but to note some of the issues that do divide us (not necessarily with the same people in the two groups each time, far from it) - and the need to avoid wasting our energy on amking these differences bigger than they are.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Feb 20th, 2009 at 03:36:17 PM EST
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Obviously there are many differences in the community and all our rows take place in the context of some of them.  But I'm not convinced the differences, per se, are the problem.  It's not as if we are on the opposite sides of some war.  My recollection of most rows is that somebody felt personally hurt by some criticisms, mounted an inadequate defence, and was then pilloried some more.  At some point somebody missed a cue that it was time to lay off - something which is much easier to do in cyberspace than in the real world where there are a lot more cues to work off.  Of course rows are always framed in some ideological way - its about religion, or sexism, or racism - but the actual hurt is often a lot more personal than the failure to sustain an argument.  I don't think there is any way we can stop these things going wrong sometimes, although I do believe there are more things we can do to fix them when they do go wrong.

notes from no w here
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Feb 20th, 2009 at 07:49:35 PM EST
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