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It has always struck me as ironic that those who actually produce nothing, but who make fortunes trading the output  of productive workers - should be the first to espouse the work ethic and to decry real workers as lazy, indolent parasites.

I'm not saying people in the financial services industry don't work, and don't serve a productive function, but given that they don't actually produce wealth directly, they sure as hell know how to appropriate a hugely disproportionate portion of it.

notes from no w here

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Feb 27th, 2009 at 01:36:19 PM EST
Frank Schnittger:
given that they don't actually produce wealth directly, they sure as hell know how to appropriate a hugely disproportionate portion of it.

That's because appropriating wealth is the only kind of work that matters.

Merely producing it is what the disposable slaves are for.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Feb 27th, 2009 at 05:33:58 PM EST
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I can't, for the life of me, come up with an explanation for why we need most of what goes on in the financial centers.  Stock exchanges -- yeah, okay, I "get" those.  But financial "innovation"?  No, not so much.  There are areas of finance that I can accept as good and necessary, but much of it is just horseshit.  And toxic horseshit at that.  I'm thinking of (say) the local financial planner who advises people on where to put their money to save for their kids' college tuition payments or retirement vs the guy peddling mortgage-backed securities at Lehman or CDOs at AIG or something.  The former is, I think, a worthy profession.  The latter is clearly, at best, almost useless; and, at worst, incredibly destructive.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Feb 27th, 2009 at 07:48:47 PM EST
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I'm glad to hear you say this, for some reason.  It all strikes me as so unnecessarily complicated.  I am currently doing some research and a side line has to do with a very "simple" financing scheme involving stock issued in order to put up a building about 110 years ago.  I still don't totally understand it, but it seems like it could be understandable if I beat my head against a wall a few times and maybe talk to a couple of people who know about these things.   Those were the good old days, I guess.
by jjellin on Sat Feb 28th, 2009 at 11:22:01 PM EST
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It has always struck me as ironic

Not so much ironic as baldly logical? Some people have to be kept at work, even for less than a living wage, to keep the real revenue streams flowing on which the financial world builds its money-spinning house of leveraged cards.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Feb 28th, 2009 at 05:02:04 AM EST
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Frank Schnittger:
those who actually produce nothing, but who make fortunes trading the output  of productive workers - should be the first to espouse the work ethic and to decry real workers as lazy, indolent parasites.

What I find striking is the vehemence with which they deny the importance of those on whose contributions they depend. It is as if, having subconsciously acknowledged their fundamental parasitism, they need to repress it absolutely.

Maybe they're not as proud of what they do as they pretend.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Feb 28th, 2009 at 05:53:54 AM EST
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