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You do know Gorbachev is not exactly the most popular politician in Russia these days...

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 04:53:26 AM EST
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I think that may have been his point. Isn't Lupin in the US-is-gonna-die corner?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 04:55:23 AM EST
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Maybe...

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 05:03:31 AM EST
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Lupin is in the "US has serious issues" corner. What expat isn't.
by northsylvania on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 06:04:13 AM EST
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I don't think the US of A will become Mad Max-land, no, but I do think it's going to collapse pretty badly, and possibly even fragment à la ex-USSR, though that seems more unlikely to me. (Although reading redstate, I can't help wondering...) It will then reinvent itself. Into what, that is the question.

Obama like Gorby wants to save a system that can't be saved and will fight tooth and nail against needed reforms. It's a lost cause.

When this site began I wrote that the biggest challenge of this new century would be for the rest of the world to learn to cope with the fall of the American Empire, and I still believe that.

We're in for a pretty rough ride.

by Lupin on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 12:42:32 PM EST
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Let's see, did try do change the system, without changing its core precepts, led the country into crisis and civil war, loss of superpower status...

Might happen. Will not be pretty.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 04:55:30 AM EST
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We have to give Gorbatchev credit at least for that: there was very little bloodshed under his watch, ie the empire's dissolution was peaceful.

The wars that did happen afterwards (Karabakh, Chechnya, Transdniestria, Tadjikistan, Georgia, the 1993 coup) cannot really be blamed on him.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 04:59:58 AM EST
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Well, that might be hyperbole for the August'91 coup.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 05:03:01 AM EST
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so five years down the line after the collapse, the gangsters, and militarists will be in charge under the benevolent lead of the head of the CIA?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 07:27:54 AM EST
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You mean, like for the past few decades ?

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 09:19:00 AM EST
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Wondered who would notice first. ;)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:08:09 AM EST
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ceebs:
so five years down the line after the collapse, the gangsters, and militarists will be in charge under the benevolent lead of the head of the CIA?

lol, sounds about right... autocracy with lipstick, in latest hollywood hot pink shades of 'liberty'!

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Feb 10th, 2009 at 11:12:12 PM EST
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