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Isn't the relevant debate on the level of the nation states?
And there of course I think most of us follow our national gov'ts dealing with the crisis. Or do you think this comment is a realistic description of what most EU nations do?
I don't think so. While I'm not happy with happened so far in Germany, I don't see something that stupid happen as described in the diary, which would give the money to the corporations leaving even the shareholders unimpaired. More over the KfW is now rather active to make new lending on behalf of the federal gov't, which come most closely to 'good bank' proposal to what I have seen so far, and which is my favourite solution.

So overall I would give my national politicians a 'C' for handling the crisis, while Geithner is in for an 'F', as well because of a partially misdirected stimulus.

Another reason why it is reasonable to focus on US policy is, because if they would find a good handle on the crisis, it would very likely be copied here - while a good approach on the national European level won't be copied in the US.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Sat Mar 21st, 2009 at 01:54:35 PM EST
If you want to argue that the European Commissioner for Economic and Monetary Affairs is "irrelevant" and all the action is at the national level, you're free to do so, but what does that tell us about the European Union?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 21st, 2009 at 01:57:44 PM EST
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It tells us, that in case of crisis, the prime response is still on the national level. In a crisis not only objective rule of law, but as well solidarity is needed. And peoples willingness to be solidaric is still strongly national focused.

And the different content of what comes from Brussels and the national capitals tells us as well, how much the EU buraucracy is detached from the EU population. They don't have to face the voters. Huge handouts to the banks are more and more difficult to get public support.
La France en colere?

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Sat Mar 21st, 2009 at 02:29:44 PM EST
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I guess the Commission is committed (no pun intended) to providing cover for national government facing voter anger over bank rescue packages.
It is clear that after the huge amounts of public money already poured into the banking sector, it will not be easy explaining to taxpayers why we need to do more. If asset relief for banks is to achieve sufficient public acceptance, it is essential that the banking sector is seen to provide an adequate quid quo pro. This cannot just be limited to restrictions on executive pay. It must also include a commitment to maintaining lending to the real economy and to carry out appropriate restructuring.


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 21st, 2009 at 05:35:21 PM EST
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Actual action will mostly be taken at the national level, simply because of the scale of the tools available there (as noted, the EU budget is only 1% of GDP), but the EU has a role in shaping debate in each country (I expect that more than a few of our governments get their notions on the economy and finance from what is repeated ad nausema at EU summits) and also has a role in coordinating and leveraging some of the action (investment in infrastructure, for instance, or the focus on renewable energy-friendly regulations).

And the old attitude to Europe remain: lok at how Sarkozy and Merkel, despite their continued antagonism, at least continue to make an effort to make it look like they are coordinating (and do in fact coordinate), whereas some other more euroskeptical countries continue to trash the EU.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Mar 21st, 2009 at 02:04:03 PM EST
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Isn't the relevant debate on the level of the nation states?

Except that we have a common currency zone, a common market, free movement of capital, free movement of people... without a functional economic policy at the EU level.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 21st, 2009 at 06:12:09 PM EST
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A very important point, Martin. The world is still willing to learn from the US- perhaps. For good or ill. The US has never been willing to learn from anyone, except in the rare instance of the German intelligence structure after WWII.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 at 04:57:21 AM EST
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Well, you speak from Germany. For the financial sector in Hungary, or Lithuania, the Commission is very much relevant.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Mar 22nd, 2009 at 05:33:05 AM EST
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