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Public pensions used to be quite good, but they've been severely eroded, to the point of being little more than a token measure.

Various private and semi-private pension plans are more or less regulated. Huge mess, and a political liability to boot, because these pension funds are, of course, sacred cows who have to be bailed out when they go bust.

I did a diary on the Danish system a while back, and its contents is still valid today.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Mar 12th, 2009 at 06:09:37 AM EST
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I'm sure at the time of the kick off of pension privatisation in the UKthere was a statement of how much pensions were going to cost if we continued with them and how much money privatsisation was going to save.

Might be interesting to see how much money will be required now, and work out how much cash has been lost thatr should have gone to the government in supporting this and has instead vanished down the plughole.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Mar 12th, 2009 at 06:34:31 AM EST
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That argument has always been bullshit. Payout to retirees from stocks and sovereign debt is functionally just a tax on corporations or a transfer from general revenue, respectively. Since most pension funds are explicitly prohibited from investing in anything other than mature companies (so no private equity or IPOs), and since stock markets don't need pension funds to perform their legitimate functions, there is no overall economic benefit here. Full stop.

In other words, pension privatisation is a zero-sum game (or negative-sum, if you count the time and effort spent on management, and all the other productive assets that are betrayed into hopelessly unproductive works).

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Mar 12th, 2009 at 06:40:57 AM EST
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Yes but would be nice to hang them with their own words.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Mar 12th, 2009 at 06:47:11 AM EST
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If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.
by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Mar 12th, 2009 at 06:51:00 AM EST
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