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You still didn't get it or refuse to accept it. You remind me of those bankers :) Jake, Wall St. IS The System.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 03:36:06 PM EST
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Bull. Shit.

Wall Street does not produce steel, it does not produce ball bearings, it does not build ships, it does not grow food, it does not manufacture chemicals, it does not mine copper, it does not smelt lead, and so on and so forth and etcetera.

Ergo, Wall Street is not the system that needs to be saved.

Now, Wall Street may hold hostage some part of the strategic infrastructure that we need in order to save the system. The solution to that problem is to shoot Wall Street in the back of the head, take the strategic infrastructure from its cold, dead hands and then dump it in a shallow grave.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 05:41:19 PM EST
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Since "on s'en passe" of Wall St., why not give up banks altogether. Or currencies, for that matter :) Alright, I'm being provocatory. But it's not that simple to avoid intermediaries, in general. I would just ban computers from this business.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Wed May 20th, 2009 at 04:58:44 AM EST
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Huh? Methinks you're confusing me with ChrisCook. I never said that we should abolish credit intermediaries. I just said that the part of the system that has to work all the time, every time, has to be public. Because otherwise, private gangsters can and will hold the public ransom every few years.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed May 20th, 2009 at 05:28:17 AM EST
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I never said we should abolish them either, Jake, merely that they are unnecessary in a Peer to Peer economy, and I would now add that they are well on the way to abolishing themselves.

And btw it's not a case of either Public = State or Private = Corporation. It's quite possible to bring both within a partnership framework. Glasgow now has four genuinely municipal partnerships with private sector partners.

"Any economic unit can emit money. The serious problem is to get it accepted" Hyman Minsky

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Wed May 20th, 2009 at 07:21:08 PM EST
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