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Hello Kibbutz!
Why work?
by vladimir on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 12:07:02 PM EST
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Why work, indeed?

And why bother typing an actual argument when you can fall back on cheap talking points...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 12:17:05 PM EST
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It ain't a cheap talking point. It's a two word synthesis of what would happen if your proposals were to become government policy.
by vladimir on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 12:27:00 PM EST
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As an aside, most Kibbutzes conspicuously failed to implode economically...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 01:46:01 PM EST
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Right. That's why they're used as the predominant social model in many developed countries.
by vladimir on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 03:09:56 PM EST
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What are used? Kibbutzes? Or public pension plans, which was the topic originally under discussion?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 05:21:41 PM EST
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Kibbutzim, you will be astonished to learn, are workers, not parasites and they work hard.
by cambridgemac on Tue May 19th, 2009 at 11:52:33 PM EST
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That's because they're relatively small communities - allowing the parasite to be exposed quickly and brought back to the community's norm. In larger communities, the same operational values allow (indeed encourage) the development of parasitic behaviour.
by vladimir on Wed May 20th, 2009 at 04:14:49 AM EST
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Then how do you explain that the Scandinavian Socialist Republic of Sweden has one of the highest labour force participation rates in the world?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed May 20th, 2009 at 05:34:55 AM EST
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Because lots of women have "real" jobs instead of staying home with the kids, someting which insn't considered as participating in the labour market in lots of countries.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed May 20th, 2009 at 06:11:43 AM EST
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