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A politician who attempts to run a blog faces a couple of quite possibly insurmountable structural concerns. First, and most important, is the fact that the politician does not simply represent him- or herself. When Jerome writes about the ongoing Russo-Ukranian gas crisis, he can do so without it being seen as taking stands on behalf of his employer (as long as he takes a couple of elementary precautions). A politician does not have that luxury. Of necessity, then, politicians are restricted to staying "on message," or at the most to deviate from it in ways that are - to use that memorable phrase - "mostly harmless."

The second important concern I'd highlight is the fact that politicians must always expect to have their words used against them. If Markos or Majikthise gets involved in an in-depth discussion, and makes a remark in the context of a twenty post long dialogue, they can be reasonably sure that it will only be read by people who are actually interested in the dialogue in question. A professional politician, on the other hand, must always protect himself against quote mining by his enemies. Again, this tends to turn commentary "mostly harmless," and at any rate reduces the degree to which he or she can follow a train of thought to its conclusion in a public forum.

Finally, politicians are expected to not backtrack in plain view of the public, and so are hesitant to go out on a limb in public and to admit to error or correction in a forum where his new stance is immediately and very visibly comparable with his old stance.

Of these three, only the third point can be changed by improving our democratic culture. It would certainly be an improvement if politicians were less scared of being proven wrong on the facts, more willing to admit that there are things they do not know and more willing to accept corrections from people who do actually know. But the first two points are, as far as I can tell, an integral part of the nature of (representative) politics.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue May 26th, 2009 at 11:52:20 AM EST
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Politicians face these issues every time they speak in public and are skilled at doing so.  Being a member of the Irish Government and responsible for European Affairs didn't stop Roche criticising Klaus in trenchant terms.  

Of course if you are in "public life" you have to be more measured and keep well away from flame wars etc. Even we have to learn such lessons!  Every lawyer has to learn to develop and stick to a brief. Every businessman has to try and present their business/products is the most positive possible light. In politics, your party won't thank you for repeating opposition talking points.  

But ultimately, if you want people to relate to and vote for you, you have to present yourself and your views to them, and if that means taking some crap, then so be it.  I see blogs as a way for plitics to connect better with their electorate, adn if they are afraid/unable ti do so, they probably shouldn't be in politics in the first place!

notes from no w here

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Tue May 26th, 2009 at 12:55:21 PM EST
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Politicians face these issues every time they speak in public and are skilled at doing so.  Being a member of the Irish Government and responsible for European Affairs didn't stop Roche criticising Klaus in trenchant terms.

That is true as far as it goes, but what makes blogs and other grassroot media different from broadcast media is the possibility of a real dialogue. A courtroom spiel or a sales pitch is a monologue (or, in the case of a courtroom tactic, two or more opposing monologues).

It's not just about keeping away from flame wars, or not divulging confidential information - rules every good blogger should follow. It's about being inflexible, not circumspect.

And an interview situation is much more controlled than a blog dialogue. For one thing, there's only one interviewer - or at most two - so you don't have to repel criticism from more than a couple of directions at once. Second, it is very hard for the interviewer to point out that the person he is interviewing is simply flat out wrong on the facts, or that you are lying to his face - that's against the genre convention that the interviewer has to be "neutral."

Third, the interviewer is on the clock. A blog conversation spans hours or days and it's asynchronous, meaning that each contributor can take as much time as he needs to get his thoughts in order. So it's much harder to parry a point with a glib one-liner that leaves the other guy groping for words. But unlike LTEs, which are similarly asynchronous, the record of the conversation is readily at hand, so you can't simply pour the inconvenient parts down the memory hole.

In short, there are structural reasons that make it much more challenging to get away with giving a sales pitch (or with playing fast and loose with the facts) on a blog (or another grassroot medium) with an even moderately attentive audience than in a newspaper or TV interview, given the same audience.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue May 26th, 2009 at 02:44:24 PM EST
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I think blogs are more important than they seem. There will probably always be a trivial swirl of personal vanity blogs, facebooks, etc.

But once you get people reading and commenting together, there's the potential to influence politicians in the same way that lobbyists do.

The key is voting demographics. Voters are mostly conservative and older, which is why the BNP is running its ridiculous Spitfire+Churchill campaign. They're aiming for the generation which can identify with those, and that won't mean people in their 20s and 30s.

Once that older generation is the one that remembers blogging, a decade or two from now, politics will have to become more interactive. The MSM will have faded and/or fragmented by then, so a simple one-to-many message will no longer be practical.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 26th, 2009 at 04:56:59 PM EST
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I hope you're right, because the medium does have some built in advantages that will be very hard to strip out.

On the other hand... have you taken a look at a YouTube comment thread recently?

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue May 26th, 2009 at 05:10:48 PM EST
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YouTube has no moderation, and no subject focus, so it's a free for all. It also doesn't try to model a user culture.

Most blogs include have a culture of their own, and dissenters can always be taken out and shot. Or banned - whichever is easier.

So scrappy free for alls aren't inevitable. You only need good enough moderation for something worthwhile to emerge.

And blogs have a very live reputation. When Kos bans someone, all of the related communities know about it. So there's a feedback feature there which makes it possible for respectable non-flame-ish blogs to coalesce and start having an effect.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed May 27th, 2009 at 06:26:36 AM EST
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I don't disagree with you, but there are ways around the problems you pose.  It isn't necessary for a politician (or a blogger) to respond point for point to all the comments on his post.  Usually a dialogue develops between the bloggers and they answer each others points.  If a flame war develops or the dispute is going around in circles the politician would be best advised to keep out of it in any case.

All that is required is that the politician shows that he has read and taken some account of some of the main points of a conversation in a subsequent post.  In fact it could be argued that the comments space if where the constituents get a chance to have their say and the politician should give them the space to say it in their own way.  You can't win with a bunch of people who are just trying to prove they're smarter than you and looking for a chance to catch you out.

You just go to the next post and articulate what impact the discussion has had on your thinking.  The guys who want you to endorse every line of their spiel are the guys you don't want to be dealing with directly.  You have a very large and diverse constituency to represent and can't allow yourself to be rail-roaded by a few zealots - unless you happen to agree with them!

notes from no w here

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Wed May 27th, 2009 at 05:17:14 AM EST
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Dutch minister of Foreign Affairs (and most of the time I find him a prick), started to use Twitter already before he became minister.

He's still tweeting (see here), actually does this in person, responds and jokes with his audience and frequently uses Twitter as a test group to ideas / statements / news events.

The Dutch MEP candidates are now also on Twitter, but this looks like more of a stunt. Verhagen has made consistently use of it.

Granted, Twitter is not a blog and it won't go in depth - but it is interactive with people and it's refreshingly open. I must say, Verhagen gets my credits for this.

by Nomad on Tue May 26th, 2009 at 06:22:51 PM EST
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We've already seen:

Twitter as a form of engagement

The BNP using the web to raise nearly £400,000 (successfully, too)

An MEP candidate taking donations by SMS - which is a very, very clever move, because younger people are conditioned to vote and pay for media and content by SMS

There are other new models which new media will make possible. The MSM won't be competing because there's still this 19th century idea of The Writer or The Editor who monopolises your attention with their inherently valuable and entertaining insights and bon mots, set in the shining frame of a magnificent vehicle called a newspaper or TV show.

That idea is dying now. It's being reinvented on blogs, but it's also being fragmented and mutated elsewhere, as people are finding that they're being allowed to talk back.

Not everyone wants to be sold interactive politics as a clearly delineated experience.

But when people are already comfortable with interactive and social media of all kinds, it makes perfect sense to colonise those media with political outposts.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 09:42:48 AM EST
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