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The information passed back seems fair enough, it's part of normal procedure within a country to keep the registers updated, so why not between member states?

But registering each and every time, wow. That doesn't respect the principle of equal treatment with member state nationals, not at all. (Or do Hungarians have to register each time for each election?)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 07:40:52 AM EST
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In the UK I have to confirm annually by return of the statement or online that I am still at the same address and eligible to vote. Is this similar elsewhere or do you only register again if you move?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 07:59:12 AM EST
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In France, they resend you your carte d'électeur every other year or so. If you don't move, it's automatic; it you do move, you would not get the new carte and could not vote in the same place, unless you specifically ask for a new carte

But it's the same carte for all elections.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 08:08:18 AM EST
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Ah that sounds similar except the carte is sent to each household (ie not to each individual) listing who is currently registered and asking if there are amendments.  So if I moved but didn't declare that, I would have the opportunity to respond to the carte with my amendment at my new address.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 08:28:19 AM EST
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The voter registers are updated regularly by a special commission. They will strike off anyone for whom, for example, they have received notice from another electoral district (commune) that that person has registered to vote there. The commission also validates applications for registration.

The two French laws founding the right to vote for EU citizens specify that the the "complementary list" (ie non-French EU citizens) is to be updated under the same conditions as the general French list.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 09:23:36 AM EST
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As per above, Hungarian citizens (unless they want to vote elsewhere than their primary residence) don't have to register at all: the state/local authorities maintain data on people's residence, and that is used to assemble voter lists, without any active imput from citizens. So the declaration on not voting elsewhere is simply not applicable to citizens.

There is unequal treatment in the process, however: I forgot to point out that foreign residents do not get automatically on the voter lists, they have to present their residence permit along with the declaration to be put on it.

*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 08:11:33 AM EST
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without any active imput from citizens.

A minor correction, because the above would make appear that you can't do anything about database errors and learn it only on vote day. Before the elections, everyone gets mailed a personal election announcement (if the election in question involves a vote on party lists, a party recommendation form is included). So if you don't get one or you'll move soon, you can have active input by requesting a correction.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 08:15:48 AM EST
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Spain's system is substantially the same as Hungary's.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 12:50:12 PM EST
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A further clarification: even though they aren't on voter lists automatically, the election office collects the data of foreign residents, too, who are also mailed personally at the same time by the election office.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 01:35:25 PM EST
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The UK requires people to re-register every year. Usually in October local councils will send a form to every home with a voter roll for the address, which must be returned including any changes from the previous year.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 10:18:53 AM EST
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Yes, as In Wales describes. But it's the authorities that push. In France you have to go in and register and before 31/12 if you want to vote in an election the following year. OTOH, you don't have to renew annually.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 11:34:15 AM EST
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What happens if a snap election is called? Can voters caught wrong-footed appeal to be included in the voter rolls?

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 12:49:12 PM EST
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Not as far as I know - but there are elections in a year more often than not, and snap elections are quite rare.

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 02:47:02 PM EST
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So if you move to another city, as I did last summer, you have to re-register on the rolls at your new city of residence, and you'll be registered, for the following year on.

Should a snap election be caught in the fall (extremely rare; we French tend to do that in the spring; must be something in the water), I'd still be able to vote, but in my former place of residence.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 04:52:27 PM EST
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Have you lived in another EU member state, Bernard?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Jun 11th, 2009 at 04:54:33 PM EST
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Only in Germany, but this was in the 70s and I was still a kid, so no voting for me.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Sun Jun 14th, 2009 at 05:06:30 PM EST
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