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If the Mayans were that clever, their civilisation wouldn't have died out way before the next Armageddon surely?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 12:46:27 PM EST
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The 2012 apocolypse (sic) is part of a bizzaro complex of beliefs which includes ZOMG alien-infested planets careening around the solar system like billiard balls, ancient Sumerian fish people, wacky old Terrance McKenna and his drug-induced insect-like hyperdimensional entities, crop circles, NASA coverups, Mars landings, lizard people, CIA mind control, and the fact that quantum physics proves all of this.

I think the Olympics are happening around then too.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 03:54:36 PM EST
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Apparently last week was "Only six galactic spins till solstice 2012" according to an email from a friend. According to him the Mayans migrated North, and then it's something about Lunar calendars and Omaha indians, but I'm not entirely sure how these things link together (The more I read it im afraid the less I know).

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 04:13:47 PM EST
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Someone just told me that no one knows how microprocessors work because there's an equation inside them (sic) in which x+infinity is divided by y+infinity, and this isn't mathematically possible.

So - er - just thought you ought to know.

Or not know. I forget now.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 05:33:02 PM EST
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thy do tend to get upset when i laugh at them, apparently i shouldn't dis the wisdom of native cultures, and western knowledge is destroying the planet


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 05:37:44 PM EST
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Someone just told me that no one knows how microprocessors work because there's an equation inside them (sic) in which x+infinity is divided by y+infinity, and this isn't mathematically possible.

Where do these people come from & why don't they go back there?

by ATinNM on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 06:27:43 PM EST
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...the Mayans migrated North, and then it's something about Lunar calendars and Omaha indians

Oh why not.

And I'm sure they had lead acid battery powered astronomical computer as well.

And pyramids.

And an advanced non-industrial civilization taught to them by the Space Beings.

(It's all covered-up by the government, you know.)

by ATinNM on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 06:24:58 PM EST
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Is a spin the time for the galaxy to complete one turn?

In that case we will only have to wait some 1 500 million years for six more galactic spins.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 05:04:04 AM EST
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But I espeically like the stuff about Eizabeth II being a lizard.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 12:31:04 AM EST
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You forgot the sunspots.

(Although, the predicted solar maximum for 2012 might do a number on our communications, and that would certainly leave its mark globally.)

by lychee on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 01:11:57 AM EST
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Wait a minute, could an intense aurora be the spectacle we're supposed to see then?

Sheesh. People need to relax.

by lychee on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 01:19:54 AM EST
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<Sigh> Hit post instead of preview.

"People need to relax if that's what the whole thing's about."

Having satellites knocked out by solar storms wouldn't be fun (and I refuse to watch Knowing-- no solar flares for me, thank you). But now I wonder if the galactic things we're supposed to see are really just intense auroras!

by lychee on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 01:25:49 AM EST
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It wasn't about preservation.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 03:56:59 PM EST
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It wasn't about anything. I think the original is due to one of those wacky 'Everything is connected to everything else, so buy my sequel!' books by Jose Arguelles, which tied the Mayan Calendar to the I Ching, etc, etc.

Only he got it completely wrong, and the Mayan cycle really ended a few years ago.

I'll admit I'm fascinated by this constant need to try to prefigure apocalypse. If it's not the imminent end of the world, it's the antichrist. Or maybe some variation of ascension into paradise by way of the return of Jesus, the Rapture, the arrival of the space people, or a technological singularity.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 05:38:22 PM EST
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oh I could so do with a the world ended several years ago and you numptys have it all wrong link.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 05:41:13 PM EST
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There's this for people with a reasonable attention span.

Also available on video.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 06:46:06 PM EST
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As a child, I worried myself ill over some (presumably tongue-in-cheek) article I saw on the national news about Nostradamus and Mother Shipton (I think) agreeing that the world was going to end in 1981.

Astonishingly, the date of Mother Shipton's predicted end of the world appears to have been shifted to 2012.

Still, it all came in useful when some blithering child of sick fundamentalist parents started scaring my daughter by telling her she wasn't going to live to get to high school because God Was Coming.

My own experience and ten minutes on the internet proving how many people had made themselves look really stupid with these predictions soon cheered her up.

And if she had any residual worries, I should think three years of high school has pretty much wiped them out.

by Sassafras on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 07:01:31 PM EST
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and there's always this

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 07:26:56 PM EST
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Has anyone noticed that the world didn't end the last time a long count ended, about 3114 BCE? Or are people claiming there's a first time for everything?

There is actually a whole other 2012 contingent that doesn't think it wil be the end of the world, just an ending or change in how we view something. I think they mean other than 2012 prophecies. ;-) Kind of like how the Internet/Web changed communication and commerce, only on more of a psychological/spiritual scale.

by lychee on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 01:07:04 AM EST
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According to the Mayans (or possibly only an interpretation of what they thought), the next 52000  year Baktun is the Age of Light, and we all get to go one step up the evolutionary ladder ;-)

The beginning of the last Baktun saw, possibly, the emergence of modern humans. The oldest dated remains found at Crô Magnon  are around 35.000 years old.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 06:59:00 AM EST
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My tongue, of course, is firmly placed in the cheek.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 08:12:50 AM EST
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It was about the thrill of maths - or string theory ;-)

Or a culture looking for patterns over any many generations. I don't think we, today, have any idea what it feels like to be part of an ongoing effort to find patterns in the celestial or terrrestrial - over hundreds, if not thousands of years.

The only thing that was important to the Mayans (for example), imo, was that there HAD to be a Tellurian pattern. It was beyond preservation.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jun 16th, 2009 at 06:08:00 PM EST
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Mexico, Central America and the United States are literally CRAWLING with Mayans.  They are very civilized.
by paving on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 02:27:10 AM EST
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