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  • Today's youngsters could be trapped into a "work to live" cycle into their twilight years

Today's children could become what Aviva has dubbed "the forever generation". They are the generation who will be retiring later, paying their mortgage for longer and having children live with them well into their twilight years

Lifestyle changes mean that people are now taking up to seven years longer to reach various milestones - leaving home, marrying, buying a house and starting a family - than they did 30 years ago. Aviva is therefore warning that people need to start planning for their retirement sooner rather than later. <...>

Darren Dicks, head of annuity propositions for Aviva UK Life, said: "There is a risk that without forward planning, today's young adults could end up in a work-to-live cycle for what feels like `forever'. Without suitable pension provision and a means to pay off their mortgage before retirement, people could find themselves having to work for much longer than they do now. <...>

"On a more positive note, life expectancy is also increasing steadily, rising from 82.8 and 86.8 respectively for men and women born 30 years ago, to 88.5 and 91.8 for people born now(4). So even though people are working longer, they are also living longer in retirement. This underlines the importance of planning ahead and preparing for a long life."

Event

Average age 30 years ago

Average age now

Shift in yrs compared to 30 years ago

Expected age in 30 years time

First marriage (men)(6)

25.1 years

31.9 years

6.8 years

38.7 years

First marriage (women)(6)

22.8 years

29.8 years

7 years

36.8 years

Birth of first child (women)(6)

26.6 years

29.3 years

2.7 years

32 years

Purchase of first home(7)

27 years

34 years

7 years

41 years



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 02:38:26 PM EST
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they would say that wouldn't they. However they are not really addressing the very deep bitterness in this country about the lack of protection for pension schemes whereby companies can steal the pension pot and piss it away in bonuses for the board, or the pension scheme can get tripped off or just be used as a way of supporting their mates companies before they go bust.

and even if everything is done properly, the govt then comes along and says, you have money that we need, so we're gonna have a windfall tax.

Meanwhile public employees and company directors have entirely different arrangements that we pay for that ensure they're free and easy from age 50 onward.

So the forever generation is now, people like me. I'm 50 and I have no pension worth squit. I will work forever or live in utter poverty.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 17th, 2009 at 05:55:38 PM EST
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7 years "longer" and 7 years "later" are not the same thing. People studying longer or having difficulty finding full time jobs also means that they need to be supported by society in that period, and that burden seems to be nearable, so why would more years as pensioners would not be?

As to the fact that people are now simply enjoying life as young adults without the social obligation (especially for women) to get married and have babies does not mean that such a trend will continue linearly forever - there are physiological limits to that. Marriage is increasingly unrelated to whether one lives in a couple or has a family...

And as to housing, extrapolating the past 30 years, which were essentially one bubble followed by one larger bubble, into the next 30 is rather ... daring.

But whatever, this is just about trying to grab people's money for insurance funds.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 04:50:01 AM EST
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Jerome a Paris:
this is just about trying to grab people's money for insurance funds
Ain't that the truth...

marco:

Aviva is therefore warning that people need to start planning for their retirement sooner rather than later. <...>

Darren Dicks, head of annuity propositions for Aviva UK Life, said: "There is a risk that without forward planning, today's young adults could end up in a work-to-live cycle for what feels like `forever'.

Aviva is wrong, though. Today's young adults will take a longer time to join the workforce and will drop out of it and into long-term unemployment at the age of 45, having to wait 30 years until they qualify for a measly 'charity' pension when they're 75.

Raising a family, you say? On a lifetime earned wage of 15 years?

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 05:23:47 AM EST
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marco:
Today's youngsters could be trapped into a "work to live" cycle into their twilight years
The mean live to work, obviously.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 18th, 2009 at 05:18:09 AM EST
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