European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 20 June | 107 comments (107 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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PEOPLE AND KLATSCH

by Sassafras on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 12:08:20 PM EST

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Independent: Showgirl 'taped herself in bedroom with Italian PM'

A showgirl who claims that she and other women were paid to attend Silvio Berlusconi's private parties said yesterday that she had pictures showing her with the Italian prime minister in his bedroom.

Ms D'Addario, 42, who was yesterday described by a senior government figure as a high-class prostitute, said that the footage showed her standing in front of a mirror. A bedroom with a framed photograph of Veronica Lario, Mr Berlusconi's estranged wife, was in view. She said she had made the recordings "so that nobody could deny I had been there".

by Sassafras on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 12:11:44 PM EST
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Scary title, I was thinking duct tape.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 01:30:38 PM EST
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And you just had to share that mental picture with us, didn't you?

by Sassafras on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 02:12:20 PM EST
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It came to me unbidden.

God, I'm sounding like Burlesquoni.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 02:42:54 PM EST
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smart cookie!

i'm sure they were discussing important EU ( or EWW!)

diplomacy

how long before he starts a porn channel?

The power of knowledge is in mortal combat with the knowledge of power. It really is that simple... That's the Edenic apple we are all munching on.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:11:10 PM EST
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He started them back in eighties! Canale 5, Italia 1 and Rete 4.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:22:34 PM EST
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The all-time best comment on duct-tape courtesy someone.

Effectively the comment is missing a tribute to bondage.

Anyway, here are a takes from her 2004 calendar.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:20:54 PM EST
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I thought you Europeans were supposed to be famous for not caring about this kind of thing...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:25:43 PM EST
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This kind of thing? When was the last time a head of state or government was caught running a prostitution ring?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:31:18 PM EST
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"This kind of thing" being scandalous extramarital action.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:37:26 PM EST
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The allegations about Berlusconi border on the criminal already.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:38:37 PM EST
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I totally give up on trying to understand the European moral compass.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:42:21 PM EST
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So much simpler in America. If it involves sex is it bad, if it involves guns it is ok. Easy to remember.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:43:25 PM EST
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Which part of "Berlusconi runs a prostitution ring" is not understandable?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:48:43 PM EST
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LOL

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:49:46 PM EST
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Please explain.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:51:29 PM EST
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What do you need me to explain? Europeans used to pride themselves on being too enlightened and liberal to care who their leaders were sleeping with, unlike us messed up Puritans over in the New World. You keep screaming that he is running a prostitution ring, which I think is a term that refers to pimps and sex traffickers, not the men who actually pay to partake of the services. You just kept saying it over and over. It's criminal! He's running a prostitution ring! I was laughing at your vehemence.

Still confused as ever, though...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:14:24 PM EST
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He has business associates recruiting girls to have sex with. Okay, so he is the main customer of the prostitution ring, but he runs it, too.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:18:06 PM EST
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Ach. How's it any different than those courts you guys used to have? And you can't possibly be under the impression that mistresses do not receive some type of remuneration. Are the women being forced against their will? I mean, are they full time sex slaves kept against their will, or women who have been offered a nice amount of money for a night with the Premier? Sounds like these are models, not street urchins struggling to feed themselves. Were threatened if they did not comply? Were they kidnapped?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:36:34 PM EST
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Mind you, I'm not suggesting that this all isn't totally creeptastic. I'm just wondering where you choose to draw the line.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:41:24 PM EST
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Extramarital affairs between consenting adults are not abusive.

Sexual harassment of underlings and protitution are.

But you know this already, so why do I have to tell you?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:49:48 PM EST
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She's listed as being 42. And no offense, but Europeans large do have a MUCH higher tolerance for sexual harrassment than Americans. Or at least in my own and every American girl I know who has been abroad's experiences.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:52:57 PM EST
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It's a bit curious. First you are mad because he is running a prostitution ring. Then when it is pointed out that he's the client, not the pimp, you are mad because of the underaged girls.

Again, I was responding to the post here, and not the story about the underaged girls. A 42 yr old model/escort taped herself with Berlusconi. That's what I was responding to.

And extramarital affairs are abusive, actually.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:57:36 PM EST
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Then when it is pointed out that he's the client, not the pimp, you are mad because of the underaged girls.

He's the owner and single client of the ring.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:59:49 PM EST
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And extramarital affairs are abusive, actually.

What, to the cheated spouse?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 06:00:22 PM EST
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Very often, to all the involved parties, eventually.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 06:14:56 PM EST
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Sounds like these are models, not street urchins struggling to feed themselves. Were threatened if they did not comply? Were they kidnapped?

Wait, if it isn't gritty and shady it isn't exploitative?

Let's see, a 17-year old leaves her portfolio with a modelling agency and the agency owner then "forgets" the portfolio on Berlusconi's desk along with her cellphone number... Yeah, just par for the course in Europe and nothing to be shocked about.

What Europeans are more tolerant of than Americans is extramarital affairs with consenting adults. But things like "consorting with minors" or sexual harassment of underlings is equally frowned upon.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:45:49 PM EST
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Right but I am not talking about the underaged girls - that's a whole different matter and clearly sick and wrong. I am talking about the 42 yr old escort.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:51:27 PM EST
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I wonder what her deal is - after 'meeting' Berlusconi he put her on the short list for being a candidate for the European Parliament (among a number of other similar women), and after that blew up in his face he put her on the lists for the local elections in Bari. And she may advance her celebrity career with these videotapes she took inside his bedroom, though her political career is shot. So she's definitely not innocent. But if she can pierce the veil of lies Berlusconi has erected on this whole thing...

I mean, "Berlusconi can probably get many women for free" is the best his lawyer can come up with to counter the allegations that he paid this 42-year old €2,000 per visit. WTF?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 05:58:33 PM EST
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It's all connected.

Did you see the one this morning about how he bragged to Jacques Chirac about how many women from porn magazines had used his bidet after he bagged them?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 06:02:27 PM EST
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No I didn't (and my soul would have been better if you hadn't mentioned it.) I did read about Chirac boasting of his enormous success with women though.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 06:14:24 PM EST
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<grin>

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 06:19:43 PM EST
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Bwahahaha! That was a fun read, thanks. De Gondi sure ahs a way with words...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 06:24:27 PM EST
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I'm in tears... (4.00 / 3)

"Chirac liked to get away to mix with conservative peasant stock types with whom he would eat traditional plates based on lesser known animal parts." is one of the most entertaining sentences I have read in a while...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 06:26:27 PM EST
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Pics or stfu

by paving on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:28:53 PM EST
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She's 42, that's an improvement over the young girls, right? BTW, I had no clue Berlusconi was 72! I mean, if all the stories are true, that's almost impressive. :)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 04:41:18 PM EST
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God Grew Tired Of Us (none / 0)

I just watched the documentary God Grew Tired Of Us about the Lost Boys of Sudan.

An astonishing, humbling, inspiring story and film. I urge everyone to watch it. How people who have suffered such an unimaginable holocaust as children can grown up into such amazing, positive, powerful individuals, just blows my mind.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 10:11:54 PM EST
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Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Jun 19th, 2009 at 10:31:18 PM EST
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How disturbing.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 20th, 2009 at 03:37:07 AM EST
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I mean, I know it's satire but satire should be funny.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 20th, 2009 at 03:39:07 AM EST
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it is funny.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Jun 20th, 2009 at 06:26:11 AM EST
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I found it disturbing.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 20th, 2009 at 06:27:49 AM EST
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If anyone here has read idées noires...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Jun 20th, 2009 at 07:04:56 AM EST
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