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Are there communities of Orthodox Jews in France and, if so, do they habitually dress in as distinctive a style as do those in the USA?  If yes to both, how does that compare to the response to the burqa?  If no, how should the French State respond to the arrival of such communities?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 08:12:11 PM EST
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There are... In the Marais district mostly, and a few individuals. There are private schools there!
While in some streets many men wear the kippa, the full regalia of the orthodoxy is getting scarce (twenty years ago they were in a greater number).

The fact that the old jew district was in immediate neighborhood of the gay one must have had some influence maybe ? :-)

To be a bit more serious, there was some shooting in the "rue des rosiers" and a bombing at the Copernic synagogue twenty years ago. Even the orthodox went into low profile since. And many have migrated to Israel...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 09:44:51 PM EST
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Thanks for the information.  Is there now an insufficient basis for a comparison of the response of the French State between Jewish and Muslim communities, or any other for that matter, that refuse to assimilate and insist on distinctive dress and appearance?  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 10:24:32 PM EST
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There's also a vibrant Jewish community in Strasbourg - but what was most distinctive about them, as seen by me as a kid, was their funny haircuts.

But again, we're not talking about forbidding any dress in the street altogether.

Note that there is not significant net immigration to Israel of French Jews

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jun 24th, 2009 at 02:45:37 AM EST
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As long as the frumka doesn't catch on in France...
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jun 24th, 2009 at 09:03:51 AM EST
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Are those haircuts banned in public schools?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 24th, 2009 at 09:35:42 AM EST
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I don't remember ever seeing any in the public schools in Strasbourg.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 at 05:31:50 AM EST
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Is it a self-segregating community, then?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 at 05:40:14 AM EST
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