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How can you claim that the head coverings are not religious?
There are large populations of autochtonous, christian Europeans where older women wear headdress. See kcurie's comments upthread about rural Spain 50 years ago (and you can see the same things in the Balkans and in the Mediterranean - I bet you a fair fraction of Bulgarian, Greek, Sicilian rural grandmothers dress in black and cover their heads still today.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 24th, 2009 at 06:05:36 AM EST
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That is not proof. Europe has Christian baggage just as other parts (I'll refrain from using the word Middle East ;) have Muslim baggage.

What you need to argue is that covering a woman's head with a scarf etc does not imply values which are promoted by religion. One could start by asking if the head covering were denounced by early religious leaders as pagan, and only accepted grudgingly over time. I am not qualified to make socio-historical remarks of this precision.

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by martingale on Wed Jun 24th, 2009 at 09:47:21 PM EST
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Indeed. Head scarves are common in rural Finland. There is a very simple non-religious explanation: scarves protect the hair, both from disarray in the wind, and from dust etc. Where access to showers, hairdressers etc is limited, the scarf is an important part of the practical wardrobe.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 at 03:12:21 AM EST
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That's the first somewhat persuasive argument I've read in this thread. What do they call the male scarf in rural Finland?

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by martingale on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 at 06:01:07 AM EST
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It's called a bandage.

Only available at Emergency Treatment centers.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 at 10:34:55 AM EST
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I've seen those, they usually come in red and white, yes? A lot of kids these days like to wear them around the arm as a sign of rebellion.



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by martingale on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 at 07:42:14 PM EST
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Remember?

10 Uses for a Silk Scarf : The List Maven - Lists of Beauty Tips, Fashion Advice and Shopping Suggestions

or this one?

This used to be the hight of fashion. I still have some of these scarves. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 at 09:30:34 AM EST
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