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Supporters predict Silvio Berlusconi will survive run-off elections - Times Online

Many European leaders "wonder how Berlusconi can still be Prime Minister, even if they do not say so to his face", according to Graham Watson, Liberal Democrat leader in the European Paliament. Part of the answer is that most Italians get their news from television -- and both Mr Berlusconi's channels and RAI, the public network, which he controls, have buried the scandals.

Il Giornale, his own newspaper, has been deployed to discredit any witness against him, portraying the Prime Minister as the victim of a plot involving not only the Left but the international press, Italy's own secret services and "traitors in his entourage". function slideshowPopUp(url) { pictureGalleryPopupPic(url); return false; } Related Links

For Vittorio Sgarbi, a former centre-Right deputy Culture Minister, it is even simpler: men of power need a lot of sex. "If Berlusconi does not gain sexual satisfaction he governs badly."

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 01:39:22 PM EST
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there would seem to be quite a bit of truth to that. I can name quite a few French politicians that have open reputations as sex animals - although they tend to be slightly more discreet about it than Burlesquoni.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 02:48:56 PM EST
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Would it be your contention that (thanks to sufficient sexual hyperactivity) these French politicians governed well?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 03:44:22 PM EST
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Jerome a Paris:
there would seem to be quite a bit of truth to that

cuz berlusconi's doing such an ace job?

it's just 'droit de seigneur' with aspiring starlets instead of ruddy farm girls.
without his lock on the media, he'd be history by now, that's why italy has such a slow rollout of broadband, can't let the information get to the peeps...

heading for hammamet!

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 09:46:44 PM EST
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The truth of it isn't the issue. Replace sex with religion. Should religious belief be condoned as acceptable in politicians if that helps them govern? No!

Sex has nothing to do with ideals of government. It simply isn't relevant, and making it relevant as the statement highlighted by Fran attempts to do is not appropriate, unless one wishes to argue that eg the minister's preferred cupsize or whether he's enjoyed buggery in recent days should be an important factor in deciding the laws that govern the country.

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by martingale on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:04:28 PM EST
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It's relevant for security reasons. When the Big Man can't keep it zippered he's easy prey to blackmail and manipulation.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 05:33:19 AM EST
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It's only relevant if the blackmail would be effective: if someone had tried to blackmail Haughey with his affairs he'd have laughed at them - everyone in the media knew already. It would have been  relevant in the US or UK because it's a big deal there.

Now, if Haughey had been busing loads of starlets out to his Kinsealy mansion or flying them out to his island, that might have been a different matter. Though it would have been a pretty small bus in those days.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 05:37:37 AM EST
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They don't have to plain vanilla affairs. Get your mark drunk or drugged enough, scatter a few teenagers around, and you have yourself some solid leverage, even if it's not something the mark would usually do.

Pillow talk has proven expensive too.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 04:19:58 PM EST
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Hence all Big Men needs neutering.

It is a sacrifice but one I am sure our beloved leaders will make to keep the world safe from terrorists.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 07:49:42 AM EST
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men of power need a lot of sex. "If Berlusconi does not gain sexual satisfaction he governs badly."

LOL  This rationale will justify anything!  We have the example of Bill Clinton.  He had a ton of sex and still governed badly.  Obanka might be useless; at least he's not a clown.

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:00:40 PM EST
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Clinton wasn't actually having sex.  Maybe that explains it?
by paving on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:11:44 PM EST
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It depends what you mean by "it".
by Sassafras on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:22:16 PM EST
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What was he having, tea and crumpets?

In the end, might makes right. Nothing has changed since the caveman.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 at 05:51:35 AM EST
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What is missing in this marvelous run-up is the fact that in Italy most people don't know about it. Berlusconi has appointed all five directors of the five most important TV news programs. The vast mass of ignorant fools that rely on TV for news simply know nothing about it.

It's not being covered by main media. It therefore is not happening. You here know more about it than the average Italian.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:07:47 PM EST
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Do most Italians get their information only from the mass media? When I lived in NY, the press was just as reticent about Giuliani's affairs (until close to the end), but we all knew about them. Doesn't word of mouth work in Italy? I'm sure most people are just as ignorant about "real" politics as the media wants them to be, but I suspect a story like this is different (I live in Trentino, which means I don't have a clue about the average Italian...)
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 04:27:54 PM EST
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The number of Italians that rely exclusively on TV for news is esteemed to be 15,000,000. That is a sizeable electorate.

I have pointed out these past days that Berlusconi's scandals are not being covered by strategic news media in Italy. There is today yet another parliamentary interrogation over the steadfast refusal to cover the scandal by the major national network RAI 1. Not only is it being ignored, the Berlusconi appointee, Augusto Minzolini, counterattacked in an unprecedented live interview disparaging the scandal as unworthy of coverage.

Minzolini owes his entire career to being a ruthless cistern shark. The term "minzolinismo" was coined to describe a certain type of journalism: To report idle gossip from within the corridors of power without any pretense of verifying it.

Minzolini built a career on entertaining insinuations and unconditional praise for Optimus Poffarbacco. He is utterly allergic to reality just as is his master.

Nor is he the only one elevated to a position where he can grovel insolently in the floodlights. It's just that he's new and has those sexy blue eyes.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 06:30:05 PM EST
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gk:
Do most Italians get their information only from the mass media?

information, what information?

oh the sports scores, now i get it!

italians hone most of their political opinions chatting in bars and barbershops. their box has a colourful enough lining, that most don't see much need to think out of it.

good food and family are the compensations italians use to forget their government is the most expensive, overstaffed, criminal and expensive in europe, (as well as the laughing stock of the entire planet).

the really weird thing is that the more he's attacked, the more italy wants to mother him, gaah.

he's nonnina's's lovable lil rascal, by jiminee, and his sins are forgiven weakly, ain't he a card?

dr feelgood, with his mojo stick, come to save italy from detumescence, lol.

maybe tripoli could be be the new hammamet, then he could get some of that dictator drag going, as well as the harems.

this g8 meeting could be um, interesting, especially as l'aquila just had another aftershock today, not bad enough to knock any structures down, but 4.6. ain't chickenfeed either, especially with recent memories. it was enough to make all the tenters rush out into the open.

could we be about to see the world leaders running round in pyjamas as their world teeters?

i think his publicity ploy using l'aquila is going to backfire bigtime. or as J. might say, 'it couldn't happen to a nicer, or more deserving fella'

besides the people in the area are pissed his stupid plan to build a new cement monstrosity for them to live in is very late in starting, so pissed they met en masse in rome the other day, in front of palazzo chigi.

are there even any hotels posh enough (and still standing) round there, for our glorious globocrats to stay in, or will they helicopter in from rome?

memo to obama, don't start any conversations about bidets, michelle will probably not appreciate ribald man-talk.

just compliment him on his tan, can't go wrong there...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 at 10:13:17 PM EST
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