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by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:12:55 AM EST
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Finland polling stations now closed.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:06:21 PM EST
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Updating results in Finland

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:17:29 PM EST
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Could you copy-and-paste it here, with EP party affiliations added?

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by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:58:22 PM EST
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Ist number = projected seats. 2nd number % of votes counted. 3rd number votes counted so far

National Coalition Party    3    22,0    301 524   
Centre Party of Finland    3    20,8    286 052   
Social Democratic Party       2    17,8    245 092   
Green League                    1    10,9    149 922   
True Finns                         1    10,0    137 487   
Swedish People's Party    1    6,3            85 875   
Left Wing Alliance            1    6,0            81 992   
Christian Democrats         1    4,4            59 845

Social democrats down 1 seat, Swedish People's remarkably retains seat. True Finns (The Ugly Party) get a seat. Damn. How embarassing.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:46:54 PM EST
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As I figured it out in the meantime, EP party affiliations:

National Coalition Party - EPP  
Centre Party of Finland - ALDE
Social Democratic Party - PES
Green League - Greens-EFA
True Finns - Non-Inscrits (Libertas)
Swedish People's Party - ALDE
Christian Democrats - EPP

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:49:26 PM EST
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Turnout down just over a point. But I bet, proportionally, Swedish speaking voters have been more active this time. The SPP was not predicted to get a seat before voting. If SPP do get one tonight then my close colleagues will be congratulating themselves on their marketing ideas and execution ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:54:29 PM EST
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position unchanged

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:58:08 PM EST
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I guess this looks like the end result. The True Finns have 150.000 votes so far. Luckily I know what most of them will look like...It's the closet fascists that worry me.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:02:11 PM EST
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Live report from a colleague at the SPP election HQ. It's still tight. SPP needs over 6%. Now at 6.1%. The only relief is that there are still votes to be counted from the Helsinki region which has a higher % of swedish speakers.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:11:15 PM EST
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Situation electric at SPP HQ ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:20:19 PM EST
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Looks like 5000 more Swedish speakers turned out this time compared with last EP election.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:21:50 PM EST
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National Coalition 23.2% (3 seats) -1

Centre Party 19.0% (3 seats) -1

Social Democrats 17.5% (2 seats) -1

Green League 12.4% (2 seats) +1

True Finns 9.8% (1 seat) +1

Swedish People's Party 6.1% (1 seat) no change

Christian Democrats 4.2 % (1 seat) +1

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:39:53 PM EST
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What is their EP group membership?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:42:59 PM EST
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I posted it upthread.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:48:25 PM EST
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BTW 13 Finnish MEPs are 8  women and 5 men ;-)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:07:34 PM EST
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National Coalition Party - EPP  3
Centre Party of Finland - ALDE 3
Social Democratic Party - PES 2
Green League - Greens - EFA 2
True Finns - Non-Inscrits (Libertas) 1
Swedish People's Party - ALDE 1
Christian Democrats - EPP  1

(Thus ALDE 4 but the two parties are aligned differently within the group)

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:56:03 PM EST
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Thanks Sven!
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:27:27 PM EST
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I voted SFP for the first time in my life. Not very happy with that vote, but there it is (although Nils Torvalds wasn't too far from winning, hah). I would have voted Green League otherwise.
Anyway, really smart move on the SFP's part to nominate a popular politican from Åland as part of their list, they managed to get the Ålanders to turn out in droves. If they hadn't, they would have lost the seat.

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by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 08:05:14 AM EST
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I voted for one of the HBL leader writers, Björn Månsson. I've met him and discussed with him - he seems well informed (as he should be) about a wide variety of issues. He also has a sense of humour and a command of languages. The Vaalikone profiler put us in fairly close approximation on what I think are the key issues. I'd rather have Nils or Björn on the seat than young Carl, but SFP's problems are not going to be solved in less than 5 dedicated years of change, so perhaps a younger generation rep is a good idea.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 08:29:25 AM EST
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The Ugly Party did quite well. As my friend said, "In Belgium you get a fine if you don't vote. In Finland you'll get Timo Soini."

Soini, by the way, has said out loud that he probably won't even go to the European Parliament, but plans to send a substitute instead. Pfffft.

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by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:03:31 PM EST
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Soini, kerpele!

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:15:09 PM EST
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And "my" party (The Left Wing Alliance) lost again. I don't know how many elections in a row they have now lost; I've lost count a while ago. The Greens say they aim to take votes from the right wing parties and the Social Democrats but it seems that they end up taking the Left votes instead...

(And also, in previous European elections the Left Wing Alliance had an Eurocritic as a strong candidate. This time he was not there anymore so the critical votes went to Soini's Ugly Party instead. The Left campaign this time was about "your conscience and Europe", not so much about "who needs the EU anyway", and it seems that it did not really attract voters. Which is a shame.)

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by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:46:08 PM EST
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first estimates:


l'UMP arrive largement en tête avec 28,3 % des voix suivi du PS avec 17,5%. La liste Europe Ecologie arrive en troisème position avec 14,8 % des voix devant le Modem qui totalise 8,7 % des suffrages. Suivent le Front National (6,5 %), le Front de gauche (6,3 %), le NPA (5 %), Libertas (5 %) et Lutte Ouvrière (1,3 %).

EPP: 28.3%
PES: 17.5%
Greens: 14.8%
ALDE: 8.7%

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:04:19 PM EST
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Does Libertas run under its own name in France, or some dwarf allied with them? (I see on Wikipedia that in Finland, it was the far-right True Finns who did so.)

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:12:57 PM EST
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Libertas gave its name to/ allied with traditional euroskeptic Philippe de Villiers

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by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:23:49 PM EST
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...and the Hunters-Fishers party, I found on Wikipedia.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:38:06 PM EST
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The Socilaist's fall is spectacular, and the doubling of the Green vote did not take it up all... even if it seems the Greens and NPA captured all their losses. 44.9% for all left-of-centre parties, hm.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:47:47 PM EST
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The PS is being cut down to size, and will need to enter real discussions with others. Watching Cohn-Bendit (big personal winner after Bayrou's smear campaign FAIL) with Melenchon and intelligent PS people in the France2 studio, there's a feeling of a beginning of a reconstruction of the left that must now give up productivism and adopt political ecology as mainstream. A distinctly positive buzz.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:26:52 PM EST
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Big bang in France: latest estimation gives (on the left):

PS (PES) 16.8%
Europe-Ecologie (Greens-AFE) 15.7%
Modem (ALDE) 8.?%

In Paris/Ile de France, Europe-Ecologie (Greens, Dany Cohn-Bendit and Eva Joly) comes in several points ahead of the PS (PES).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:12:11 PM EST
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I know, ALDE is not the left, but there are reasons for comparing the Greens and ALDE.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:17:23 PM EST
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Is there an estimate in seats?

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by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:18:30 PM EST
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Just got an estimate here.

UMP (EPP-ED) 30 seats
PS (PES) 14 seats
Europe Ecologie (Greens-EFA) 14 seats
MoDem (ALDE) 6 seats
Front de Gauche (GUE/NGL) 4 seats
MPF+CPNT (Libertas) 1 seat

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:46:36 PM EST
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UMP (EPP)............30
PS (PES).............14
E-E (Greens).........14
Modem (ALDE)..........6
Front de Gauche (?)...4
Front Nat.............3
Libertas..............1
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:46:43 PM EST
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Forgot the FN...

Wiki has the Front de Gauche as a GUE/NGL party.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:49:37 PM EST
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The Front de Gauche is Melenchon allied to the communists

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 07:19:47 AM EST
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Cohn-Bendit has just announced EU-wide progress for the Greens with a projection of nearly 60 seats in the EP.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:05:26 PM EST
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The parties of the Left are in a heated battle with the Libs for fourth place, while the Greens have almost clipped the Socialists. Meanwhile the center-Right seems to have fractured in Germany, although they still hold the strongest position by far.

And I thought all the action would be in the UK & Ireland tonight...

by glacierpeaks (glacierpeaks@comcast.net) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:28:24 PM EST
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Turnout is in line with the 2004 results:
     13h    17h
2004 24.56% 33.92%
2009 24.11% 33.79%
According to El Pais, with 42% of tables counted, participation is 44.3%, below the 2004 figure of 45.9%.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:01:12 PM EST
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Party Votes (%) Seats(-4)
PP    5.8M(-0.6M) 42%(+0.8%) 23(-1) [EPP]
PSOE  5.3M(-1.4M) 39%(-4.8%) 21(-4) [PES]
CEU   0.7M(-0.1M)  5%(-0.3%)  2(--) [EPP/ALDE]
IU    0.5M(-1.2M)  4%(-0.4%)  2(--) [GUE/NGL]
UPyD  0.4M(new)    3%(new)    1(+1) [NI]
EdP   0.4M(-0.0M)  3%(+0.2%)  1(--) [EFA-Greens]


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:18:40 PM EST
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Same seat allocation.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:21:15 PM EST
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Not that I was expecting anything different, but still disappointing ...
by isaac on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:27:48 PM EST
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What would not have disappointed you? A 22-seat tie at the top?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:33:39 PM EST
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Yeah, well, I would have preferred better results for smaller parties and that the PP wouldn't have won.

While I am not the happiest person with the current Spanish government, I am not sure what the PP has done to deserve the victory ... are they really going to win the next elections?

by isaac on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:46:53 PM EST
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The next elections are far in the future.

This outcome, 2-seat win over the PSOE and 4 percentage points, was described by El Pais today as a sign that the Government should worry.

It's just a 3.6% win, so it's borderline.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:50:31 PM EST
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Turnout reported at 46.01%, above the 2004 figure.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:37:52 PM EST
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Turnout 46.03%, same seat distribution.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:01:07 PM EST
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Not enough votes left to change the result, I don't think...

I'm going to bed now...

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:36:01 PM EST
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What's up with the CEU? Have they switched?

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by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:26:58 PM EST
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I see, it's a coalition of regional parties. So one EPP, one ALDE, or what?

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:32:21 PM EST
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Final results indicate that the right-win aprties do not get any mroe significant votes from other european elections,.
However, PSOE got a very low turnout in some regions whcih traditionally support them with huge amount of votes, specially catalonia, where 200 kvotes stayed home (from 900 kvotes to 700 kvotes) having a vey low participation.

This can be also indicatiosn that recent internal political questions in Spain ahd an influence in the electiosn, int his case the lack of an agreement for the finantial arrangement between the Spanish State and Catalonia.

At least, our TV are showing report from all capitals... if only we would ahve selected a head of the comission .. I would bet that voting total would raise significatively only if some "Head" would be selected by the european parliament.

If not..everything is local.

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by kcurie on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:39:05 PM EST
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Maybe PSOE and PP lost votes to UPyD in a 3:1 ratio... Everyone else polled very similarly except for IU who lost 10% of their votes...

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:00:15 PM EST
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In total votes PP increased slightly its numbers.

They had a high turnout in Madrid and valencia, again for purely local reasons regardign the support of the base towards the indicted corrupted members of the right-wing party.

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 06:33:38 AM EST
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Denmark, from the BBC:

PES (22%) 4
ALDE (25%) 3
UEN (15%) 2
Greens-EFA (15%) 2
EPP-ED (12%) 1
GUE/NGL (6%) 1

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:58:02 PM EST
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Results for Portugal:

EPP-ED: 10 seats
PES: 7 seats
GUE/NGL: 4 seats
Greens-EFA: 1 seat

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:38:32 PM EST
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ah - wrong section, see tiao's comments below
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:43:10 PM EST
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