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by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:14:18 AM EST
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For Italy the official page with results will be here. Polling stations closes at 10.00pm CET
by Tcpip on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:43:07 PM EST
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The alternative page of the ministry site seems to be faster
by Tcpip on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:25:26 PM EST
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And it's great to have you posting at ET!!
by Nomad on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:33:00 PM EST
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In Hungary, one pollsters' prediction is:

  • Fidesz (EPP) 17 seats (+5)
  • MSzP (PES) 4 seats (-5)
  • Jobbik (Euronat?) 1 seat (+1)
  • SzDSz (ALDE) 0 seats (-2)
  • MDF (EPP) 0 seats (-1)
  • LMP (Greens-EFA) 0 seats) (0)

Turnout was around 36%, or about 2.5 percentage points below 2004.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 01:56:50 PM EST
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A second pollster:

  • Fidesz (EPP) 67%, 16 seats (+4)
  • MSzP (PES) 19%, 4 seats (-5)
  • Jobbik (Euronat?) 8%, 2 seat (+2)
  • MDF (EPP) 3%, 0 seats (-1)
  • SzDSz (ALDE) 2%, 0 seats (-2)
  • LMP (Greens-EFA) 1%, 0 seats (0)

There were several violations of the campaign silence, including far-right paramilitary in uniforms...

On Friday, a Socialist campaign activist was knocked down while he was putting up a poster.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:20:06 PM EST
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OK, now we have the final official results: a veritable catastrophe...

* Turnout: 36.28% (-2.22)

  1. Fidesz (EPP) 56.37%, 14 seats (+2)
  2. MSzP (PES) 17.37%, 4 seats (-5)
  3. Jobbik (Euronat?) 14.77%, 3 seats (+3)
  4. MDF (EPP) 5.30%, 1 seats (0)
  5. LMP (Greens-EFA) 2.60%, 0 seats (0)
  6. SzDSz (ALDE) 2.16%, 0 seats (-2)
  7. Workers' Party (wannabe GUE/NGL) 0.96%
  8. MCF (Roma party, probably PES) 0.47%

It is very very little consolation that a Green party achieved its best results ever (with my vote).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:22:37 PM EST
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Jobbik seems to be exceeding expectations.  Little scary.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:21:55 PM EST
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Not little. Very.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:07:12 PM EST
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In the Poster Spotting diary, I expressed my bad feelings about the liberal SzDSz's campaign slogans asking whether there are 200,001 Free Democrats. A rather damaging campaign in end effect: with SzDSz getting just 62,419 votes, the far-right can now crow (and they do) that the answer is a resounding NO...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 05:31:32 AM EST
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What's up with the Worker's Party? It's the first time I notice an entity on the traditional left of the Socialists in Hungary. What sort of left are they?

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:54:41 PM EST
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Sadly the unreconstituted kind, more or less.

In 1989, on the road towards consenting to multi-party democracy, the ruling party then called the Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party held a congress, on which the majority voted to re-form the party as today's Hungarian Socialist Party. However, a minority of diehards chose to go on under the old name. (Since then, there have been a few name changes, but what the Socialists dropped, "Worker", was always part of it.)

While this party adopted some Eurocommunist and progressive rhetoric through the years, it still concerns itself mostly with guarding the good memory of Kádár. (I.e. they get into the news most often when protesting on his birthday or at his grave or defend his 1956 record and such.)

Worse, the party looks like the personal fiefdom of its leader (in office ever since 1989), who gained some quite bad reputation by cozying up to dictators: so for example, during the coup against Gorbachev, he flew to Moscow to be the first to pledge loyalty to the coup leaders; and he got along with ol' Saddam (he was in reality what all other anti-war people were only in the accusations of the warbots).

In recent years, the party had one positive (from my viewpoint positive) campaign of note: that for a referendum against healthcare privatisation a few years ago. However, back then, right-populist Fidesz hijacked that campaign, ultimately leading to a failure of the referendum on turnout. Yet, later on, the Workers' Party did not go out of the way of tactical cooperation with Fidesz and even the far-right on more social-themed campaigns.

In the current elections, the one Workers' Party TV spot I saw was against my liking: they talked about tackling the economic crisis by way of protectionism, and that in nationalist tones -- were they trying to steal votes from Jobbik?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 05:11:04 AM EST
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Voter turnout- unofficial- at 19h00 is 53%.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:00:13 PM EST
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Turnout for Italy- down by comparison with 2004.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:01:27 PM EST
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Almost final results: 56.48% down from 70.70%. What a disgrace!
by Tcpip on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:10:37 PM EST
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Actually that was only partial. At around 72% of the precincts counted the percentage of voter turnout is nearly 65% and rising.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:52:27 PM EST
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Is that good or bad news?

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 04:53:09 PM EST
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Now around 66%. Voter turnout has traditionally been very high in Italy. It appears to be within the general trend of eroding disinterest for politics but 10% lower than 2004 is still high.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:12:34 PM EST
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I was in Italy for the second half of may - the number of political posters was incomparably higher than in France...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 07:23:21 AM EST
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It's like that for every election. I'm not sure exactly how it works, but they seem to put up boards all over town with space for posters from all of the parties.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jun 10th, 2009 at 02:13:36 AM EST
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Results for Italy:

EPP-ED: 36 seats
ALDE: 6 seats
UEN: 8 seats
non-inscrits: 22 seats

(my guess is PD will join the PES, but apparently they're undecided)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:02:14 PM EST
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It's an internal problem. The PD is more a chimera than a party with a strong leftist identity. It has a strong pata-leftist Catholic component that refuses any concession to secular and socialist values.

Were it to join the PSE, it could provoke a break-up. At the same time Word from Above might order to stay in, thus contaminating the PSE with pata-leftist Catholicism, that is when the vote comes on crucial issues, the PD in Europe might break ranks in order to keep its chimeric identity.

The projections on that site are based on a 39% vote for the Pdl. The latest projections have it at 35%.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:32:56 PM EST
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Is it the pata-Catholic element? I thought it was the ex-Radical liberals who wanted to go ALDE.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:43:49 PM EST
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Rutelli is an ex-Radical, pata-Catholic element.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:47:18 PM EST
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Results for Italy adjourned at 2h15:

EPP-ED: 34 seats

ALDE: 7 seats

UEN: 8 seats

non-inscrits: 23 seats

Reflects the poor showing of Woody's personal political entity, especially in Sicily where Lombardo set out to screw him. A falling out of thieves.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:18:35 PM EST
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Greece (exit poll):

PES: (36%-39.5%) 8 seats
EPP-ED (30-33%) 7 seats
GUE/NGL (8-10%) 2 seats
Uncommited (15-19%) 5 seats

Of the uncommitted parties there is one left party (2 seats), one orthodox christian party (2 seats) and one green party (1 seat). I guess the left party will end up sitting either with the Greens-EFA or GUE/NGL and that the green party will join the Greens-EFA. The christians could end up joining IND-DEM.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 02:51:21 PM EST
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OK, the green party is a member of the European Green Party and the Christians do sit in the IND/DEM group (get your information up to date, Euronews! and European Voice!)

So we have:

PES: (36%-39.5%) 8 seats
EPP-ED (30-33%) 7 seats
GUE/NGL (8-10%) 2 seats
IND-DEM (5.3-7%) 2 seats
Greens-EFA (4.3-6.4%) 1 seat
Uncommitted (4.3-7.2%) 2 seats

All provisional, of course.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:02:36 PM EST
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I guess the left party will end up sitting either with the Greens-EFA or GUE/NGL

SYRIZA? Aint't it part of GUE/NGL? (I counted them there anyway.)

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:11:40 PM EST
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Haven't been able to confirm that via wikipedia :-)
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:18:43 PM EST
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Well, it's true even the GUE/NGL page lists only Synaspismos as member, but just check the SYRIZA campaign page.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:41:36 PM EST
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I've been around campaigning and missed all the fun here but yes, SYRIZA is the mainstream GUE/NGL party and it looks now that it will only elect 1 member of parliament, KKE which is kind of sui generis, pretty much a soviet type stalinist party, yet includes itself in GUE/NGL, will elect two, and the Green Party will elect one. So its GUE 3, Greens 1 from Greece, and 8 for PES and the Conservatives. The triumphant LAOS, extreme rightists I have no clue where they might be heading, but I wouldn't be surprised if they headed where Fini is, he seems to be a role model for bringing the party into respectability - but it's more the Lega Norde type.

Abstention here reached record levels, around 38%, (officially it's close to 50% but that's artificial), since the elections fell on a three-day weekend, sunny and hot, the first chance for a decent summer break. The numbers aren't out yet but probably less than half of the 18-35 age group showed up to vote. This age group's no-show was a disaster for SYRIZA and the Greens, both of which expected better results (and being immersed over the past few weeks in the SYRIZA campaign, I can tell you that despite the small increase from 2004, the mood was desolate).

The Far-right thing is really worrying, there is a huge anti-immigrant backlash in the country, especially in Athens and this result turns the whole thing into a major issue. LAOS was the biggest far-right party, but if you add them, wit various small nationalist and fascist groups, they add up to 9%. 0.5% went to a nazi group. These are real nazis with funny salutes and deadly violent, showing up in various neighbourhoods and playing police: basically beating up immigrants.

The socialists were 4,5 points ahead of New Democracy, the ruling conservatives, which is decent for them and might possibly lead to early elections in October, or certainly March. I hope the weather is uninspiring when this happens.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:45:55 PM EST
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This site does say something about GUE/NGL (otherwise it's all the obligatory pun to me)
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 03:28:19 PM EST
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Results from Luxembourg:

EPP-ED: 3 seats
PES: 1 seat
ALDE: 1 seat
Greens-EFA: 1 seat

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:24:44 PM EST
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Exit polls for parties likely to pass the 4% limit:
Il Popolo della Libertà         39-43%
Partito Democratico             27-31%
Di Pietro Italia dei Valori     5-8%
Lega Nord                       6,5-10,5%
Unione di Centro                3,7-5,7%

It appears Lechergate has not eroded the hold of Berlusconi's personal political entity. The values reflect that the situation has not changed in two weeks.

Sky now has their estimates up:

Il Popolo della Libertà         39%
Partito Democratico             27,5%
Di Pietro Italia dei Valori     7,8%
Lega Nord                       9,5%
Unione di Centro                5,3%

These estimates exclude representation of the cluster of leftist parties that have fragmented since the last general elections. It's sad to see some valid politicians such as Claudio Fava or Nichi Vendola excluded but it simply repeats a secular problem within the left: protaganism.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 05:32:17 PM EST
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The latest projections indicate a strong erosion of preferences for Berluconi's personal political entity, approximately 35%. He had announced practically everyday during the campaign that he expected to carry the absolute majority together with the Lega Nord. He saw his win at 42-43% with the Lega at 10%. Recent polls placed his populist political entity at 39%.

The main opposition party, the Democratic Party, appears to hold grounds at 27%.

Comparisons are difficult to make with the previous European elections as the Left was united under a large coalition. 7 to 8% of the votes have been dispersed this time in small asteroid parties on the left.

The real winners in this contest are Di Pietro and Lega Nord.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 06:23:11 PM EST
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 Projections based on Sky-RAI at 1h20
Il Popolo della Libertà        35-36%
Partito Democratico            26,5-27,2%
Di Pietro Italia dei Valori    8-8,3%
Lega Nord                      9,5-9,8%
Unione di Centro               6%

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:28:55 PM EST
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Voter turnout highest in Europe at 66,44%
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 07:31:25 PM EST
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Let's face it, Europe has gone definitely to the Right.

As for Italy, there are local realities that have penalized Berlusconi's personal political entity, the Pdl. In Sicily the tactics of Governor Lombardo have caused a strong showing of the autonomists- over 12%. However on the national level this is not enough to gain a seat in Strasbourg. While the Pdl is penalized, the vote nevertheless shows an unequivocal rightwing turn not only in the islands but throughout Southern Italy. There the Pdl has a showing from 42 to 48% with the traditional exception of the Basilicata. The strong showing there is due to the insignificance of autonomist movements that characterize Northern Italy and the islands. One may not exclude a certain macho vote that identifies itself with Woody's sexual philandering.

The Pd has held its position, perhaps a sign that its collapse under Veltroni has stopped. It is however in a difficult situation to form alliances on a national level with two small but significant parties on either side- Di Pietro's Idv against Casini's Christian Democrat remake. The asteroid parties on the Left have disappeared from any elective role yet persist in presenting themselves with a fiefdom mentality rather than form a pragmatic coalition. Their insistence on disunity is a major voter drain for the left- on the order of 8%.

While the far left torments itself over indistinguishable nuances, arcane for almost all voters, the right wing has no problem kissing up to a demagogic blob of a party, a probable symptom of their intellectual maturity. The only real problem on the right is represented by autonomist movements. But Berlusconi has demonstrated that he can metabolize them quite well when not outright compete with them in racist demagogy.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:04:31 PM EST
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The Democratic Party may be the first party in the Northeast. Other than the expected drain on its right with the Lega Nord (18%), the Pdl (Ppoppolo! della Libbertàà) may have lost many votes over the Lechergate scandal. For the past two hours the Pd has been one point ahead of the Pdl. Strange is the alchemy of voting.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sun Jun 7th, 2009 at 08:30:34 PM EST
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Here are the Lithuanian results. The last 2 columns remind the results of the rather recent elections to the National Parliament.

Voter participation: 20.91%. For comparison, the 2004 EP election saw 48.38% participation. The two rounds of the National Parliament election saw 48.59% and 32.05% participation.

PartyEuro P. election2009 OctParlament
%Seats (former)%Seats
Homeland Union - Christian Democrats 26.804 (2)19.7245
Social Democrats 18.623 (2)11.7225
Order And Justice (Rolandas Paksas) 12.242 (1)12.6815
Darbo Partija (Labour Party) 8.811 (5)8.9910
The Polish minority party 8.461 (0)4.883
Lith. Rep. Liberal Movement (without Zuokas) 7.351 (0)5.7311
The Liberal and Center Union (with Zuokas) 3.460 (2)5.348
...
Lithuanian Peasant Popular Union (Prunskienė) 1.880 (1)3.733
...
Rising Nation Party (Arūnas Valinskas, LNK TV)1.04015.0916
by das monde on Mon Jun 8th, 2009 at 01:32:52 AM EST
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