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Absolutely.  However, the value of your pension/ISA depends on the pooled performance of the shares bought with everyone's money and held by the institutional investor. So your interests are pretty much identical to those who own shares directly.  Except, as you point out, without voting rights.

But I know you know this, so are we at cross purposes over definitions?

if there's nothing but institutional shareholders, why do we pretend that the interests of shareholders somehow intersect with the interests of the voting public?

I took "interests" to mean "the desire/need for security of and return on savings" and the "voting public" to mean "average citizens". So my reply was, I thought, the practical point that most people do have interests that rely directly on the performance of shares, even if, legally, they're a step away from being shareholders themselves.

(That doesn't, obviously, make the current system any less rotten. More so, if anything.  But I don't think there is really any "shareholder class" separate from the rest of us whose genuine interests lie in an unsustainable fast buck. Apart from bonus-driven fund managers, that is.)

by Sassafras on Wed Jun 24th, 2009 at 01:54:12 PM EST
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I may be at risk of becoming just as predictable repetitive as Chris on banking reform, but let me repeat once more: There is nothing wrong with insolvent private pension funds that cannot be solved by better public pensions. And if improving the public pension system is considered politically unacceptable, there is nothing to prevent the political system from bailing out failing pension funds without bailing out the companies whose shares are plummeting and causing the private pension crisis.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Jun 24th, 2009 at 03:05:59 PM EST
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