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Ostalgie today | 28 comments (28 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Lives of desperation are no less quiet than before. And not only for East Europeans.

Did suicide statistics change in East Germany? I heard that in Baltic countries or Hungary they went worse.

by das monde on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 05:39:32 PM EST
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In Hungary? No. Hungary led the global suicide rate list sometime in the eighties; and suicides peaked in 1983 (4,911 out of ten million). The number sank ever since (2,450 in 2007), with only slight upticks at times of crisis. Then again, this is from the 2007 ESPAD report, based on a poll of young people in 36 European countries:

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 06:32:16 PM EST
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Bah. Forgot to say: the diagram is for suicide attempts.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Tue Jun 30th, 2009 at 06:12:01 AM EST
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As for East and West Germany: check page 8 of this pdf. It shows a near monotonous decrease from the seventies both in the East and West (may be an effect of psychopharmaca), with the East coming close to the West from a higher level. Interestingly, the areas of what became East Germany were higher before 1945 already!

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 at 06:40:46 PM EST
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Absolutely everything I know about suicide statistics in the DDR I learned from Lives of others. What?! You mean that movie misled me?! <--bit of snark in that last sentence...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 11:48:11 AM EST
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The movie may have also misled you into believing that ordinary citizens in the West could look up the codes of Stasi agents, but that it was impossible for journalists to do so (it didn't mislead me, but noticing this when I saw the movie sort of ruined the ending...)

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jul 1st, 2009 at 07:59:32 PM EST
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