What's all the same interesting in this [European] election, if we look at the Netherlands, Germany, France, is that all those who have been saying the same thing after the crisis as they were saying before the crisis, have failed.
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The Greens have a hope of doing something, and it's not by chance: their ideological hard disk was already opposed to productivist capitalism and to social democracy, in its radical communist version or its soft version. From the start, it was possible for them to take up a modern discourse.
He's saying two slightly contradictory things here: ie the Greens did not change, but their discourse was suddenly more acceptable in the new circumstances, so they did not get punished.
What I think he means is that the socialists were not critical enough of the old system before, and haven't changed much their tune; while the right, which carried the system before, at least tried to be pragmatic recently, by moving towards more interventionism.
So, what worked politically was either being fully neoliberal, and moving back to statism somewhat (or beign seen to move that way), or being fully critical of that system, but not the softer criticism of the socialists, which was overwhelmed before by the rightwards push, and is overwhelmed today by the similar push of the right towards pseudo socialism.
Or, in other words: if you're too close to the right, you lose. In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
But he may be being contradictory too. I must admit I don't quite see why he puts the "radical communist" political line in as a version of social democracy...
social democracy, in its radical communist version or its soft version.
What I find paradoxical, more so than contradictory, is his reference to modern(ity). It could be read as a kind of atavistic endorsement of imperial appetites for "progress."
From the start, it was possible for them [Greens] to take up a modern discourse.
Or read as the "base case" which a Green political impulse dissembles. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
i was surprised to learn that the Greens so pointedly oppose social democracy. curious to understand what their beef with it is, i found this:
Les Verts - Dépasser la social-démocratie
is it safe to suppose that Cohn-Bendit would generally agree with that statement? Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
i did not realize that. that is certainly a point to remember, if this definition of productivism is accurate (and includes industrial productivism/productivist capitalism):
Productivism is the belief that measurable economic productivity and growth is the purpose of human organization (e.g., work), and that "more production is necessarily good". Productivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Productivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The unions are an integral part of the industrial production economy, working with it not against it.
They want a better set of the pie and that's easier if the pie grows. The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter
Frank Delaney ~ Ireland
ohmmmmm Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
I suppose it's better than starving. But isn't it almost completely passive otherwise?
But it's such a reliable and useful trope for the right - support this project/person/boondoggle and get Jobs™ - that I'm surprised it hasn't been challenged more often.
- Jake If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.
Seriously, though, the social democrats have always been about the workers. Other disadvantaged groups have always taken a distinctly secondary position in the socdem programme. The early feminists, for instance, had to fight many of the socdems at least as hard as they had to fight the mommy-stay-at-home conservatives for their emancipation into wider society. They were thought to suppress wages - partly by increasing the number of available warm bodies, partly because there was a fear that they would not unionise properly. (Although to their credit, they came around a lot faster than the conservatives...)
"Socialism" as we know it is a product of the industrial revolution. The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buiter
dictionary of definitions dept... ~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~