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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:50:36 AM EST
France 24 | India is France's guest of honour on national day | France 24
France celebrates Bastille Day Tuesday with a grand military parade down Paris's majestic Champs Elysees, joined by a detachment of Indian troops. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is the guest of honour this year.

France celebrates Bastille Day Tuesday with a massive military parade down Paris's majestic Champs Elysee followed by concerts, fireworks and garden parties as the country marks the 1789 storming of the infamous Bastille prison that marked the start of the French Revolution.


The main feature of the day is a huge military parade involving 5,000 men, about 300 military vehicles, 83 motorbikes, 280 horses, 68 planes and 37 helicopters, according to French officials. The parade moves down the Champs Elysees, from the capital's landmark Arc de Triomphe to Place de la Concorde.


Security is tight across Paris, with nearly 10,000 policemen and gendarmes spread around the city's landmark sites, including the Eiffel Tower, where French rock hero Johnny Halliday will perform at a public concert later Tuesday.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:53:54 AM EST
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France 24 | 317 cars burned ahead of Bastille Day | France 24
The night ahead of France's national day was marked by widespread vandalism as 317 cars were burned across the country, a slight increase over the same period last year, according to the police.

AFP - French youths burned 317 cars and wounded 13 police officers overnight during the now traditional bout of street violence on the eve of the Bastille Day national holiday, police said Tuesday.
  
As French troops and their guests of honour from the Indian army made last minute preparations for the July 14 parade on the Champs Elysees in Paris, the suburbs of major cities were contemplating another clean-up operation.
  
By 6:00 am (0400 GMT), police headquarters in Paris had recorded 317 burnt out cars -- up 6.7 percent on 2008 -- and 240 arrests, almost double the total for the same period last year.
  
These numbers were expected to increase as fresh reports came in.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:54:15 AM EST
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French youths burned 317 cars and wounded 13 police officers overnight during the now traditional bout of street violence on the eve of the Bastille Day

IOW they celebrated in style.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:53:14 PM EST
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If your car is set on fire do you qualify for a government-reimbursement or some kind of "stimulus" check to buy a new Renault?
by paving on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 03:38:33 AM EST
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Only if you are insured with a French based agency?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:14:38 AM EST
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French president should ban turban worn by Indian PM as it's not allowed in French official institutions and French national holiday is undoubtedly state-run function.
by FarEasterner on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:41:52 AM EST
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Hi, FE, hope you're well.

LOL! Perhaps, if France is so very offensive to Sikhs, the Indian PM should have declined the invitation? Yet he and all the Indians participating yesterday looked extremely happy to be in Paris. (As they should be: nice weather, they put on a fine parade, they were applauded and made welcome).

The turban, by the way, is forbidden to schoolboys in state schools, nowhere else.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:54:00 AM EST
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Perhaps, if France is so very offensive to Sikhs, the Indian PM should have declined the invitation?

(I indeed found criticisms of him on Sikh action group pages.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:18:46 PM EST
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Yes indeed in Punjab there were many calls to decline invitation but Indian PM represents whole 1 bln 150 mln people of India and not only Sikhs.

Secondly why it was not declined - because India does not want unnecessary problems with her elevation to UN SC where France enjoys undue influence of veto-wielding member.

But it could much better if French politicians finally woke up to reality and realized their real place in the world.  

by FarEasterner on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:05:45 AM EST
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European firms launch huge African solar power project | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 13.07.2009
Twelve European companies on Monday signed a deal for a 400-billion-euro ($560 billion) project to build solar farms in Africa and the Middle East to produce energy for Europe. 

The companies, which include leading German energy giants RWE and E.ON, electro-engineering group Siemens, and major insurer Munich Re, signed an agreement in Munich on Monday.

"Today we have taken a step forward (towards the project's realization)," said Nikolaus von Bomhard, head of Munich Re, which hosted the signing.

The firms grouped under The Desertec Industrial Initiative (DII) plan to build solar power generators in North Africa and the Middle East which could provide up to 15 percent of Europe's electricity needs by 2050.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:55:13 AM EST
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It's a great project. Are there any downsides cos I can't think of too many ?

ps Where are the panels being made ? Has local manufacturing been considered ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:33:46 PM EST
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Only that the project won't be realised...

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:35:44 AM EST
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See Solar power from the Sahara? (updated) by whataboutbob.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:54:20 PM EST
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Government split puts Iceland's fast-track EU membership on hold | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 13.07.2009
Lawmakers in the Icelandic parliament, the Althingi, reconvened a marathon debate on Monday to decide if the Reykjavik government should formally apply for membership of the European Union.  

Iceland's wish to join the European Union received a setback on Sunday when five Green party members sided with the conservative opposition to block a resolution giving approval to the government proposal. The Greens have hinged their support on the coalition government giving the green light to a national referendum on EU membership.

Social Democrat Prime Minister Jóhanna Sigurdardóttir is opposed to idea of a referendum delaying accession talks and wants a quick vote so she can deliver Iceland's application on July 27 when Sweden's Foreign Minister Össur Skarphédinsson will be hosting a meeting of the Council of Ministers.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:55:29 AM EST
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Why the fear of a referendum?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:55:19 PM EST
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by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:00:44 PM EST
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I hear Fish is the next big thing ...  Peak fish.  I'm serious.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:06:33 PM EST
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We're long past peak fish. As in, free-swimming saltwater fish. As Mr. Diamond points out in his Collapse book (I should buy a copy to keep for reference), stocks of large meat eating fish (as in, tuna, halibut, salmon) commonly get depleted by over 75% within a few years of the start of industrial fishing.

The question is whether enough fishery stocks can survive at a level that allows them to recover before global warming does them in and causes a radical shift in the entire ocean ecosystem.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:15:08 PM EST
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Plus, this will hit the world's poorest hardest. That's the usual story with climate change, but... also Russia.

New Study First To Identify National Economies That Are Likely To Suffer Most As Climate Change Imperils Fisheries

With climate change threatening to ruin ocean reefs, push salt water into freshwater habitats and produce more coastal storms, millions of struggling people in fishery-dependent nations of Africa, Asia and South America could face unprecedented hardship, according to a new study published today in the February issue of the peer-reviewed journal Fish and Fisheries. The study by a team of scientists at The WorldFish Center, the University of East Anglia, Simon Fraser University, the Centre for Environment, Fisheries and Aquaculture Science, the University of Bremen, and the Mekong River Commission is the first to identify individual nations that are "highly vulnerable" to the impact of climate change on fisheries. WorldFish is one of 15 centers supported by the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research (CGIAR).

New findings on climate change and fisheries

The disturbing results demonstrate for the first time:

  • There will be a large-scale re-distribution of species, with most moving towards the Pole
  • On average, fish are likely to shift their distribution by more than 40km per decade and there will be an increasing abundance of more southern species
  • Developing countries in the tropics will suffer the biggest loss in catch
  • [...]
  • The invasion and local extinction of species may disrupt marine ecosystems and biodiversity

"Our research shows that the impact of climate change on marine biodiversity and fisheries is going to be huge," said Dr Cheung. "We must act now to adapt our fisheries management and conservation policies to minimise harm to marine life and to our society.

And that's from a quantitative model, which could be optimistic. Or pessimistic. Still, there's a large potential for [nanne's Crystal Ball of Doom™ Technology] here.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 06:06:17 PM EST
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there was an interesting programme on Radio 4 today that suggests the CAP fisheries policy is ripe for overhaul as all parties now realise it isn't working at all.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:13:07 PM EST
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Fisheries is one of the few areas which would profit from privatizations and which haven't actually gotten them.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:37:32 AM EST
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Huh? Explain?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:39:20 AM EST
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A good system would be to have the state (or the EU, whatever) decide on an annual fishing quota and then auction out fishing rights.

Another idea would be to let people/companies/organisations lease large areas where they had a fishing monopoly. Then they would have an incentive to maintain strong populations to secure big future catches which only they would have access to. As fishes move around, these areas would need to be very big.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:44:30 AM EST
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How do you monitor fishing quotas?

The lease idea wouldn't work because the usual Market Bollocks would reward short term performance over long term husbandry, and strip-fishing would earn more than long term fish management.

Once the owners run out of fish, they can always move to something else, like blowing the tops off mountains for coal.

The fact that the fish would remain extinct wouldn't be a problem for them.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:32:22 AM EST
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Ocean fish are a typical open access resource, restricting access to this resource through some kind of market system has prohibitive costs. We have experimented with quotas, but they don't work.

The most, and may be the only practiceable point for control is the ship (e.g. the number, size and technology allowed). This calls for traditional command and control policy.

We should be shredding a lot of the larger ships.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 12:49:06 PM EST
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European Parliament to elect first president from ex-communist east | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 14.07.2009
The European Parliament is set to elect its new president, and former Polish Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek has already won backing from the powerful conservative and social democrat parliamentary groups for the post. 

The election of the new president is to be among the parliament's first tasks as it begins its own new five-year term in Strasbourg.

The liberal-conservative Buzek, who has been a member of European parliament for five years and sits on the committee for industry, research and energy, would be the parliament's first president from the former-communist east. His election is believed to be now just a formality.

The move is said to reflect the growing influence of the EU's new member states from Central and Eastern Europe.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:58:22 AM EST
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Methinks it reflects the growing influence of the EP center-right, but that's me.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:56:52 PM EST
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Second term is going to be Schulz, unless he gets his wish of following up on Verheugen (and it would be highly improbable for the German Commissioner not to go the CDU).
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 05:05:00 PM EST
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More than a Customs Dispute: Will EU Penalize Exports from Israeli Settlements? - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

s Europe really willing to express its aversion to Israeli settlements in the West Bank by slapping customs duties on products made in them? A tax court in Hamburg might soon provide an answer to this touchy issue.

The Israeli settlement known as Maale Adumim sits fortress-like atop a red stone plateau. In the Bible, the road to the plateau was known as the "steep red road."

Yossi Zamir

The Soda-Club factory in the Isreali settlement of Maale Adumim is the center of a storm that is about more than just customs duties. As the largest Israeli settlement in the Palestinian-administered areas of the West Bank, Maale Adumim is home to 40,000 people. Bulldozers are clearing lots for new houses on its outskirts. Its population is growing by the week and, in recent years, it has grown faster than any other settlement.

On the edge of the settlement's industrial zone, there is a factory operated by a company called Soda-Club. The steel gate is painted blue and green to match the company's curvy, modern-looking logo. A camera records the movements of anyone approaching the gate. The plant produces tabletop devices that add carbonation to flat water, like the ones used in many German kitchens. And for those who prefer a sweeter taste, there's also syrup coming out of Maale Adumim.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 09:59:11 AM EST
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FT.com / Europe - Iraq offers half gas needed for Nabucco
Iraq has offered to supply enough gas to fill half the capacity of the proposed Nabucco pipeline, the prime minister said, giving the project a boost even as heads of government met to sign a historic agreement approving the plan.

The offer from the Iraqi government to supply 15bn cubic metres a year of gas by 2015 helps address the greatest obstacle to the 3,300km pipeline from eastern Turkey to Austria: the prospect of there not being enough gas to fill it.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:18:19 PM EST
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Except that the Iraqi government's capacity to make good on the promise is doubtful, to say the least.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 03:22:58 PM EST
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certainly brings the situation in Kirkuk into sharp focus.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:38:17 PM EST
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Spanish nobles rebel over inheritance law


A group of grandees and other nobles have rebelled against a recent change in Spain's law which prevents a son from claiming the family title if he has an elder sister. They are demanding that the country's constitutional court strike the law down, as it may allow some women to claim titles retroactively from brothers or uncles who currently hold them.

They claim the law was tailor-made to suit a group of powerful women, including the designer Agatha Ruiz de la Prada, who claimed titles held by male relatives. Ruiz de la Prada claims the title of Marquess of Castelldosrius from an uncle who received it from his elder brother - skipping Ruiz de La Prada's now deceased mother.

"The law should not be retroactive. There will be fights in all the noble families because of this," said Miguel Temboury of the Spanish Nobles Association, a recently created conservative faction within Spain's 2,500-strong nobility.

That last bit is a bonus reason to support this law.

by paving on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 08:49:23 PM EST
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Bwahahaha.

What practical value is there to noble titles in Spain?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 01:30:48 AM EST
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You can get away with things normal people can't? A friend of mine in Munich had a neighbour who painted her rented apartment purple. She thought the landlord let her get away with this because of the "Gräfin" in front of her name...

It probably also helps in making restaurant reservations. Anything else?

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 01:40:51 AM EST
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None, but if you are born/socialised into the appropriate social network you will care because your status depends partly on that.

I am not sure such a law can be made retroactive.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:05:15 AM EST
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None,

So, why is it regulated?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:28:34 AM EST
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Inheritance law?

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:41:17 AM EST
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Inheritance of titles, or of belongings?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:58:33 AM EST
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Spanish nobles rebel over inheritance law | World news | The Guardian

The grandees have also tried to drag King Juan Carlos into the row. "We beg your attention and understanding in finding a solution that will resolve the violation perpetrated on us," they wrote to him. The rebels see the fact that male primogeniture survives in the royal family, regardless of the fact that the current king's oldest child is a daughter, as one reason for striking down the law.

"We feel the monarchy and the nobility should go hand-in-hand," said Mr Temboury. At a tense meeting of the Disputation of Grandees, as the official club for Spanish nobles is known, King Juan Carlos made it clear that he did not back the rebels. "The new regulations for noble titles should make you look to the future," he said in a letter to those congregated there in March.

King Juan Carlos's heir, Prince Felipe, has two daughters. The Spanish constitution would have to be changed if a son were born to allow the elder daughter to inherit the crown.

Let's see.

The Spanish Constitution "protects" certain sections (including the one on fundamental right and freedoms, and the chapter on the Crown) by 1) requiring a strong supermajority to reform them; 2) triggering a constitutional convention if "the principle of the reform" is approved by the Parliament. In other words, suppose Spain wanted to become a Republic and the Congress and Senate voted in favour of the proposed Constitutional reform by ample majorities. This would trigger a dissolution of the Parliament, and elections to a Constituent Parliament which would draft a new Constitution. This is eminiently sensible if you're going to change the form of the State. But now, the inheritance of the Crown is codified in the Constitution (also eminently sensible since Spain had 3 civil wars in the 19th century over a dynastic dispute involving... you guessed it, whether women could acceed to the Crown). Which means that removing the gender discrimination in royal succession (something everyone in Parliament agrees to) would trigger Constitutional Elections. Of course the new Constituent Parliament could just approve the exact same Constitution we have now, with amendments, but the fear is that it would not happen as the Spanish polity is more fractious now than in 1977 (less political violence on the streets, but more fractious nonetheless) and bad things would occur if the whole constitution were up for grabs.

So these male nobles who want to tie their inheritance to the Crown's are just obfuscating. The Spanish Constitution makes no mention of nobility titles: they are considered a matter for civil or even personal law.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 04:40:37 AM EST
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Ley 33/2006, de 30 de octubre, sobre igualdad del hombre y la mujer en el orden de sucesión de los títulos nobiliarios.Ley 33/2006 of 30 October, on the equality of men and women in the succession order of nobility titles.
Juan Carlos I,
Rey de España
Juan Carlos I
King of Spain
A todos los que la presente vieren y entendieren. Sabed:
Que las Cortes Generales han aprobado y Yo vengo en sancionar la siguiente Ley.
To all who would see and understand this.
Know:
That the Parliament has approved and I come to assent to the following law.

I'm just translating this because I find it picturesque...

EXPOSICIÓN DE MOTIVOSExposition of motives
Actualmente la posesión de un título nobiliario no otorga ningún estatuto de privilegio, al tratarse de una distinción meramente honorífica cuyo contenido se agota en el derecho a usarlo y a protegerlo frente a terceros.At present the possession of a nobility title does not give any privileged status, being a merely honorary distinction whose content extends only to the right to use it and protect it from third persons.

A nobility title is not unlike a trademark, then. Now, why is this regulated?

En la concesión de dignidades nobiliarias de carácter perpetuo, a su naturaleza honorífica hay que añadir la finalidad de mantener vivo el recuerdo histórico al que se debe su otorgamiento, razón por la cual la sucesión en el título queda vinculada a las personas que pertenezcan al linaje del beneficiario de la merced. Este valor puramente simbólico es el que justifica que los títulos nobiliarios perpetuos subsistan en la actual sociedad democrática, regida por el principio de igualdad de todos los ciudadanos ante la Ley.In the concession of nobility honours in perpetuity, apart from the honorary nature one must add the goal of keeping alive the historical memory which caused the award, the reason for which the succession to the title is tied to the people belonging to the lineage of the recipient of the honour. This purely symbolic value is what justifies that nobility titles in perpetuity subsist in the current democratic society, ruled by the principle of equality of all citizens before the law.

Okay? We keep nobility titles because there is no reason to go through the trouble of abolishing them. But they are purely honorary and equality before the law is supreme.

Sin embargo, las normas que regulan la sucesión en los títulos nobiliarios proceden de la época histórica en que la nobleza titulada se consolidó como un estamento social privilegiado, y contienen reglas como el principio de masculinidad o preferencia del varón sin duda ajustadas a los valores del antiguo régimen, pero incompatibles con la sociedad actual en la cual las mujeres participan plenamente en la vida política, económica, cultural y social.However, the norms regulating succession in nobility titles come from a historical time when titled nobility was consilidated as a socially privileged social stratum, and they contain rules such as the principle of masculinity or preference of the male no doubt adjusted to the values of the old regime, but incompatible with the current society in which women take full part in political, economic, cultural and social life.
......
DISPOSICIÓN TRANSITORIA ÚNICA.Single transitional provision
En la aplicación de la presente Ley a los títulos nobiliarios concedidos antes de su vigencia se observarán las siguientes normas:In application of the current law to nobility titles awarded before this law came into force, the following norms shall be observed:
  1. Las transmisiones del título ya acaecidas no se reputarán inválidas por el hecho de haberse realizado al amparo de la legislación anterior.
  1. Transmissions which took place already will not be considered invalid because they were made under the previous law.

Not retroactive, then.

Conclusion: The Guardian has its head up its arse.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 05:01:10 AM EST
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Migeru:
King Juan Carlos's heir, Prince Felipe, has two daughters. The Spanish constitution would have to be changed if a son were born to allow the elder daughter to inherit the crown.
Needless to say, everyone is hoping that this won't happen. Should a son be born before the Constitution is amended, the constitutional amendment would be postponed until he accedes to the Crown in order to avoid dynastic claims. People were hoping the constutition would be amended before the Crown Prince had his first child, but it couldn't be (due to the fractiousness I mentioned above).

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 05:27:34 AM EST
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Migeru:
The grandees have also tried to drag King Juan Carlos into the row. "We beg your attention and understanding in finding a solution that will resolve the violation perpetrated on us," they wrote to him.
The King signed the law itself, you dunces!
"The new regulations for noble titles should make you look to the future," [the King] said in a letter to those congregated there in March.
What a shock.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:20:30 AM EST
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as it may allow some women to claim titles retroactively from brothers or uncles who currently hold them.

Isn't it a basic legal principle that you can't legislate retroactively?

Though indeed we broke just that principle when we reformed our constitution 35 years ago to make the oldest royal child the next in line, instead of the oldest male. That meant that the crown prince was turned into a prince and his big sister was made crown princess.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:40:44 AM EST
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Spanish Constitution, Article 9,3
3. La Constitución garantiza el principio de legalidad, la jerarquía normativa, la publicidad de las normas, la irretroactividad de las disposiciones sancionadoras no favorables o restrictivas de derechos individuales, la seguridad jurídica, la responsabilidad y la interdicción de la arbitrariedad de los poderes públicos.
seems to ban some sort of retroactivity ("irretroactividad") but it seems to me to talk only about punishment ("sancionadoras"), not about civil law. Am I right? (Google translation is useless here...).
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:49:00 AM EST
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Yes, you're right.

But the Spanish legislators are wary of burdening the courts with the cases that would result from retroactive measures.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:17:06 AM EST
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Migeru:
DISPOSICIÓN TRANSITORIA ÚNICA.Single transitional provision
En la aplicación de la presente Ley a los títulos nobiliarios concedidos antes de su vigencia se observarán las siguientes normas:In application of the current law to nobility titles awarded before this law came into force, the following norms shall be observed:
  1. Las transmisiones del título ya acaecidas no se reputarán inválidas por el hecho de haberse realizado al amparo de la legislación anterior.
  1. Transmissions which took place already will not be considered invalid because they were made under the previous law.

Not retroactive, then.

Starvid:
That meant that the crown prince was turned into a prince and his big sister was made crown princess.
Barbarians! It's a good thing you Swedes are too cold-blooded for this to lead to something like the  Carlist Wars
The Carlist Wars in Spain were the last major European civil wars in which pretenders fought to establish their claim to a throne. Several times during the period from 1833 to 1876 the Carlists -- followers of Infante Carlos (later Carlos V) and his descendants -- rallied to the cry of "God, Country, and King" and fought for the cause of Spanish tradition (Legitimism and Catholicism) against the liberalism, and later the republicanism, of the Spanish governments of the day.


The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:09:05 AM EST
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Or the Hundred Years' War...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 09:28:25 AM EST
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BBC: Blair 'is EU president candidate'
Ex-prime minister Tony Blair is the UK candidate for president of the European Council, Europe Minister Baroness Kinnock has apparently confirmed.

At a briefing for journalists in Strasbourg, Lady Kinnock said the UK was supporting Mr Blair for one of the most powerful posts in the EU.

Asked if this had been discussed with Mr Blair, she said the government "would not do that without asking him".

The post depends on Irish backing of the Lisbon Treaty in a referendum.

Sounds like the Irish just got a powerful reason to vote "no".  Are the UK trying to sabotage Lisbon?

by IdiotSavant on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:06:41 AM EST
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Thats an odd statement, three days after this

SARKOZY 'NON' TO BLAIR'S EURO PRESIDENCY DREAM - mirror.co.uk

Tony Blair's bid to land the powerful job of European Union President may have been scuppered - by his old pal Nicolas Sarkozy.

The French President has switched his crucial support to Spain's ex-prime minister Felipe González, sources in Brussels have revealed. Without the backing of Mr Sarkozy, allies of Mr Blair privately admit he has no chance of getting the post.

Perhaps it's just a token statement, for national pride sake, before voting for one of the real candidates.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:15:20 AM EST
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FT.com / UK - Brown backs Blair for EU president
Gordon Brown is backing Tony Blair, Britain's former prime minister, for a return to the world stage as president of the European Council even before the job has been formally created, a top government official disclosed yesterday.

The council includes the leaders of the 27 European Union member states, and currently rotates among them every six months. Under the proposed Lisbon Treaty, it would become a five-year post, making its holder one of the most powerful figures in Europe.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:26:51 AM EST
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all crooks, criminals, kleprocrats are rewarded not only in Russia or India or China but in EU too.
by FarEasterner on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 10:44:32 AM EST
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You forgot the US, Latin America, Africa and Australia.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 11:31:29 AM EST
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Honestly I don't know much about them but the first three are known to me to some extent. Russia is very well known kleptocracy and India also. China is presumed to be very corrupt country but I have no first hand knowledge. Europe is usually regarded as better place ranging from quite corrupt and corrupt like Italy and reece to not so corrupt and almost not corrupt places in Norway or Sweden. At least people from these countries told me so - I had known one Norwegian girl few years ago and just now in Dharamsala I met Swedish guy Anton who told me a lot about his country.
by FarEasterner on Thu Jul 16th, 2009 at 09:12:13 AM EST
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