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When I called Sassafras yesterday she mentioned Warrior Forum, which seems to be a central Borg-like nexus for these people, and which I won't link to because I'm sure they don't need the traffic.

Interesting stuff. You've covered far more detail than I discovered in my brief hour of click-through. But one of the most interesting - and depressing - things is discovering an entire community of copy-writers willing to work for 1c a word.

* Yes my friends! That's 1c! Per word! Straight to you! *

The ambitious ones double that. If they reach the stratospheric heights of professional writing, they may even consider 5c a word. I found one writer willing to put together a 150,000 word ebook for $300.

And this isn't writing as writing. This is writing to the SEO template, with guaranteed repetitions of keywords to raise the page rank.

Some of the SEO-ers were complaining that they just couldn't find talent. They were offering a generous $10 for a 1000 word article, but it was nearly impossible to find writers who could do the job properly.

How is this not digital slavery? You can't call your writer and have them whipped or thrown off a cliff, but it's the exact opposite of the Personal Success MegaMethod Total Empowerment Program™ that it promises to be.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:13:48 PM EST
There's Warrior and Black Hat, that I called Blah Blah above, and no doubt others. White Hat = above-board, Black Hat is the dark side. From an SEO services site touted by ET user "seoservices":

There are two types of SEO - "White Hat" and "Black Hat". White Hat SEO is achieved by doing it the right way with no shady techniques and practices. It is the type of SEO that won't get you banned from search engines. Although it means harder work and slower results, but it is the safe way of doing SEO.

Black Hat SEO on the other hand, will probably get you to the top fast but your site will get banned from the search engines relatively fast as well. It usually means using different spam techniques both on site, like keyword stuffing, and off site like spamming for links or having link farms.

As for writer-slaves, there's no sign in any part of this universe that production is of any value at all. It's all trading, rent, leverage, and straight rip-off. Doppelganger for the financial sector.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:30:15 PM EST
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Straight corporate translations are 10c a word for down and dirty, 15 - 20 for good, up to 50 for very specialist technical. Book translators in Finland are very underpaid - maybe 5 - 15c a word max.

Original copywriting is almost impossible to price. I've done stuff up to € 100 a word for finely tuned stuff, but the work's paid in hours not in words.

"It'll take me two week to do you a 2 minute presentation, a couple of days for the 10 minute presentation - but I can do the 1 hour version while you go to lunch"

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:46:08 PM EST
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Indeed.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jul 14th, 2009 at 04:53:20 PM EST
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Any idea where these one cent a word copywriters live? I'd imagine that the 'persuasive article' company (the one with the stock photo of a smiling woman wearing glasses) gets its copywriting done in India or some other country where hand-crafted fluent English-language bullshit can be bought at rock-bottom rates.
by Gag Halfrunt on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:04:35 AM EST
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The ones I found were in the US and UK. Which makes it even stranger.

One was advertising herself as an English graduate from a UK university.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 15th, 2009 at 07:07:38 AM EST
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