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Is Obama Gorbachev?
By James Howard Kunstler

It should remind us more generally that when a society's operations become broadly fraudulent and unreal, authority and legitimacy wither.  This is analogous to the position Barack Obama now finds himself in.  He was elected as the politician most trusted in America to change the fraudulent and unreal operations of the US government.  Don't bother protesting that all politics is necessarily unreal and fraudulent. If it were so, you'd have to argue that the US Constitution was wholly a fraud, as well as Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton and the rest. It only has strong tendencies in that direction. (The Declaration of Independence was itself a direct strike against the fraud and unreality of British royal governance in America.)

As president, Barack Obama is faced with the essential fraudulence and unreality of the US economy.  Notice that, as ominous as they are, the wars in iraq and Afghanistan have generated only minimal protest so far in the early Obama period, despite the fact that they are not operationally different from their conduct under Bush. There is no protest because, for now, a consensus exists that our troops are in these places for perceived reasons -- to keep Mideast oil supply lines open... to keep Islamic maniacs busy in their own backyard instead of on US territory... to keep Iran in a vise... to maintain the American "empire" (take your pick). There's something there to appeal to a broad majority of US voters. Unlike Vietnam, Iraq and Afstan are not perceived as out-and-out frauds...

As another blogger put it so nicely last week on the web (sorry, but I forget who or where), this isn't a "recession," it's a collapse. The excellent Dmitry Orlov has outlined the process very nicely in his book "Reinventing Collapse" about the parallels between the demise of the Soviet Union and the prospects for demise of the US as currently constituted.  Mikhail Gorbachev presided over the Soviet collapse. He must have been a leader of very subtle abilities.  Not only did he survive to enjoy a busy second act of life with a Nobel Prize in his pocket, but he accomplished a nearly bloodless transition in a society long-conditioned to bloodletting as the primary political act.

Here in the USA, where we have had over two hundred years experience with peaceful power transitions -- even during the convulsions of 1860-65 -- the outcome this time might not be so appetizing. It would be one of the supreme ironies of history if it turned out that the US was incapable of ending its most self-destructive rackets peacefully and bloodlessly, while the Russians shucked off its Soviet racket like an old sweater.  The way I see it, Mr. Obama just doesn't have much time before his authority and legitimacy slough off and he is left with only his genial smile. The "hope" vested in him will end up in a Museum of Lost Hopes, along with the integrity of TV news and the rectitude of the medical profession. And funding for that museum will be cut by President Sarah Palin, representing Naziism US style -- i.e. Naziism without the brains.

by Magnifico on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:21:01 PM EST
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Kunstler:
As another blogger put it so nicely last week on the web (sorry, but I forget who or where), this isn't a "recession," it's a collapse.
It was Gregor Macdonald: Washington's Dilemma: This Isn't a Recession, It's a Collapse (July 14, 2009)

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:25:36 PM EST
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we have had over two hundred years experience with peaceful power transitions -- even during the convulsions of 1860-65
He exaggerates mightily.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:30:35 PM EST
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Oh good effing grief.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 06:49:16 PM EST
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While there might be something to the ultimate comparison there are so many wrong assertions about the US (Vietnam was considered fraud but Iraq isn't? yeah right, pal!) that it's hard to take seriously.

I am comforted by the increasing talk of "collapse" in the US, a topic confined to the Exile just a few years ago.

by paving on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 07:45:27 PM EST
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Of course, we were called Les D00mP0rners then.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 04:44:41 AM EST
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paving:
I am comforted by the increasing talk of "collapse" in the US, a topic confined to the Exile just a few years ago.
An expression of hopelessness.

It is entirely possible that 1945-2005 was the height of industrial civilization. Decline takes the fun out of people.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 04:48:01 AM EST
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The "four" is for finding such klatch!
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 07:02:18 AM EST
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Kunstler is often over the top, but, in my opinion, he's interesting.
by Magnifico on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 12:41:11 PM EST
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