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People on the Right need to stop pretending that the problem with Cheney's CIA kill-teams was that they were supposed to kill people and admit that the problem was that Congress wasn't read-in to a program that used appropriated funds. People on the Left need to stop calling them 'assassination teams.' You assassinate prominent people for political reasons. You don't assassinate terrorists.
Holy crap, the US progressive blogosphere now supports death squads as long as the Congress is in on it?

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 18th, 2009 at 08:50:17 PM EST
I'm shocked and stunned.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jul 18th, 2009 at 09:08:04 PM EST
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Luckily, Booman != US progressive blogosphere.

There are no US posters defending his position. Which is reassuring. I suppose.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Jul 18th, 2009 at 09:54:49 PM EST
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I knew BooMan is one of these inward-looking US progressives, but this neocon talk shocked me. Probably the influence of Richard Clarke; who should be commended for highlighting the Bush admin's hypocrisy re fighting terrorism, but Clarke's Clinton-time policies aren't to be recommended either.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jul 19th, 2009 at 03:17:09 AM EST
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The Neocons did not invent the use of death squads. Western Imperial Exceptionalism has always promoted their use as understandable.

The british have been brutal in pursuit of their particular "interests", in times of Empire as well as Commonwealth. Death squads, aka Protestant paramilitaries were well known to be used by MI5 and any of the other spook shows advancing their own right wing supporting British interests. Even during the 80s.

France blew up the Rainbow Warrior using a version of this Exceptionalism.

America, as the latest and biggest Imperial bully on the block, is in the middle of that phase where such ideas are almost unchallengable. Many in such a cultural climate would just think it's common sense, it's how you protect yourslef. And it is to america's credit that there are a number of voices raised against such behaviour.

But the neocons didn't invent the tactic. Every empire uses it. Neocon is just the name we give to the group currently justifying it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 19th, 2009 at 04:01:17 AM EST
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Neocon is just the name we give to the group currently justifying it.

Hence, BooMan had a neocon moment. QED

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 19th, 2009 at 08:44:45 AM EST
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What was special about the neocons was that they wanted to bring it back big-time, and in the open. Most other recent assassinations by Western powers were clandestine, and secret service jobs; the neocons used regular military forces too, and announced some hits proudly to the media.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 07:12:38 AM EST
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(...where I don't mean that clandestine, and secret service jobs would be okay; rather the opposite, that being clandestine is an implicit admission that it's illegal and a Bad Thing.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jul 20th, 2009 at 07:14:59 AM EST
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