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They're noisy, they take up space, they kill people and they pollute (including, but not limited to green house gas pollution). And in an urban environment, cars can't do anything that a well-designed urban rail system can't do better.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 03:49:25 AM EST
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It's not gunscars, it's people.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jul 21st, 2009 at 04:45:51 AM EST
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... ammunition does.

In the same way, the damage to walkable, sustainable urban development is the parking places ... but the car-dependency creates the "need" for parking places.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Jul 24th, 2009 at 01:59:45 PM EST
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The parking places are a big problem, but not an insurmountable one. Mostly, it is a problem that goes away on its own if you provide a bus system and pretend that parking problems don't exist. Then motorists will go and take the bus instead.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Jul 24th, 2009 at 03:50:14 PM EST
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That seems like its saying, "if you solve the problem, then it will go away on its own".

Indeed, that simple recipe seems very much like the recipe for Grizzly Bear Soup that begins, "first, capture, kill and clean one Grizzly Bear". "Pretending that parking problems don't exist" requires eliminating the auto dependency for a substantial share of the population, or else it is politically infeasible, and "provide a bus system" is not the universal panacea for breaking auto dependency.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Jul 24th, 2009 at 04:03:39 PM EST
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Not solve the problem and watch it go away. Provide a stop-gap measure and then use the bully pulpit to assert that the problem is the car drivers' own damn fault for blocking better public options.

But then again, I live in a world in which a city without a bus system - however rudimentary - is as unthinkable as a city without sidewalks for pedestrians, electricity or plumbing, so that might affect my thinking...

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Jul 24th, 2009 at 06:10:36 PM EST
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I live in a county with one regular daily bus route outside of the University town ... and that only has that regular bus route because the University and County bus systems merged.

When over 80% of workers in a town require a car to get to work, getting into the bully pulpit to blame the large majority for blocking better public options and then staying in the bully pulpit is problematic.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Jul 24th, 2009 at 06:19:44 PM EST
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It may not be a universal panacea, but I think the below will tend to work in most places in the US if you can get the local council to do it and survive possible referendums.

  1. charge money for parking space
  2. use the money to pay for public transportation and bike lanes
  3. limit parking spaces and increase fees
  4. build a few pedestrian and bike bridges/tunnels/crossings to the supermarket across the highway
  5. profit!
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Jul 29th, 2009 at 05:54:22 AM EST
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