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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:31:30 PM EST
A dummy's guide to German elections | Germany | Deutsche Welle
On the surface, the German electoral system is similar to that of most other Western countries, although it does have its own quirks and peculiarities. DW-WORLD explains. 

When Germans go to their polling stations - often in schools or other public buildings - they select candidates for parliament with marks on a multiple-choice ballot. But when it comes to tallying the ballots, it's a whole different ballpark.

Under Germany's parliamentary system, considerations other than the check mark come into play in determining the final makeup of the Bundestag - including things like 5 percent clauses, overhang seats and first and second votes.

But the most important difference is that Germans don't elect their chancellor directly. Instead, they elect parties, and the parties gaining the majority of seats in the Bundestag then elect the chancellor.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:34:42 PM EST
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The most important difference to most other Western countries is that Germans don't elect the chancellor directly? Aren't most countries with a parliamentary system like this?
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:19:02 PM EST
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I guess the dummy in A dummy's guide to German elections is the DW-World writer :P

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 05:30:55 PM EST
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It's true of all civilised countries (see also No True Scotsman).
by njh on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 10:20:46 PM EST
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Rampant German media America-worship.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 01:53:08 AM EST
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The English-language versions of German media (Spiegel, Deutsche Welle) seem always to be written by Americans (or wannabes) - both in idiom and CW assumptions.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 03:11:58 AM EST
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Yes. But, most of the SPIEGEL and at least part of the DW stuff in English is direct translation -- which means that it's not just the English-language editors.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 04:00:15 AM EST
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EUobserver / Turkey marks 50 years as EU suitor

Turkey has marked a sad anniversary of 50 years knocking on Europe's door, with some enthusiasts hoping that the EU's recent deal on the Nabucco gas pipeline could speed up Ankara's membership bid.

The Eurasian country of 74 million on Friday (31 July) marked a half century from the first official announcement of its application to join the EU, which was then called the European Economic Community.

In 1959 Turkey sent the first application to join the EU, which numbered just six member states

On the same day in 1959, Turkey's prime minister Adnan Menderes made the first partnership application to join the economic bloc of what was then six countries, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg and the Netherlands, created only two years before in 1957.

Ankara's bid came before several other EU countries now seen as the bloc's heavyweights, such as Britain or Spain, joined the currently 27-member club. But it has proceeded in a death-slow tempo and along with re-emerging doubts about the ultimate goal of the mutual relationship and contacts between Turkey and Europe.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:35:12 PM EST
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Arms Lobbyist Deported: Figure in CDU Party Donations Scandal Returns to Germany - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Canadian officials have deported former German industry lobbyist Karlheinz Schreiber, who sought to evade prosecutors in Germany for a decade. He was at the center of one of Germany's biggest postwar political scandals and will likely face trial on multiple charges.

The plane from Toronto arrived in Munich at 9:22 a.m. on Monday. Two police vans and three unmarked vehicles awaited the arrival. Their quarry: Karlheinz Schreiber, the infamous 75-year-old former arms lobbyist with dual Canadian-German citizenship, who had been at the center of Germany's biggest postwar political scandal.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:36:55 PM EST
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Aint' it funny. But now I will watch the German MSM, if they give the same coverage to this than to that storm in a bathtub regarding an SPD minister's usage of her official car.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 01:58:09 AM EST
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Also note: Merkel the Machiavellian tactician rose to the top within his party thanks to scoring in public opinion with being first to show public outrage and cut with Helmut Kohl when the party finance scandal involving Schreiber surfaced. So, how she and the CDU will relate to this, will be interesting too.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 02:00:33 AM EST
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EUobserver / Berlin starts talks over Lisbon treaty law

Leading representatives of the German governing parties will meet on Monday (3 August) in Berlin to formulate legislation on how to implement the EU's Lisbon treaty, as requested by the country's constitutional court.

A new deal is needed after Germany's highest court on 30 June ruled that the Lisbon treaty can only be ratified if the national parliament's role is first strengthened.

The Bundestag: Germany's ratification of the Lisbon treaty was suspended by its top court

The 147 page-long ruling suspended the ratification process of the treaty until the new provisions requested by the court come into force.

Time is short for Berlin as the German parliament will soon be dissolved due to general elections on 27 September.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:38:09 PM EST
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France 24 | French farmers must pay back 500 million euros in EU subsidies | France 24
France will demand that fruit and vegetable farmers pay back their EU subsidies, according to French Agriculture Minister Bruno Le Maire. Subsidies dealt to French farmers between 1992-2002 totalled some 500 million euros.

AFP - French farmers will have to pay back hundreds of millions of euros in subsidies after the European Union ruled the state aid amounted to unfair competition, the agriculture minister said on Monday.

 

Fruit and vegetable farmers received more than 330 million euros (468 million dollars) in illegal subsidies from the French state between 1992 and 2002, according to the European Commission.

 

"We will have to launch proceedings to be reimbursed by the farmers," said Agriculture Minister Bruno Le Maire in an interview with Le Parisien newspaper.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:40:56 PM EST
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good luck with that. Why punish farmers for the sins of the govt ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 03:05:13 PM EST
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AFP's lead is wrong - these are not EU subsidies, but state aid (as correctly stated in the article body).

What is not corrected in the article is that these were not subsidies directly to farmers, but to infrastructure and commercial development through different professional organisations.

There's no way the state is going to get the money back from individual farmers.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 03:31:02 AM EST
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Dutch Muslim Party to stand in local elections | Radio Netherlands Worldwide

The Netherlands Muslim Party has announced it will be fielding candidates in local elections next year in five towns and cities, including Amsterdam and The Hague.
 
Party chairman Henny Kreeft says he is also in discussion with party branches in at least a further five municipalities on whether they will field candidates. In June Mr Kreeft said he hoped party representatives would be standing in twenty districts. The NMP will launch its election manifesto after Ramadan, the Islamic month of fasting, which this year ends on 19 September.

If it is successful, the NMP will not be the first Islamic party to be represented in Dutch local politics. The Islam Democrats have held a seat on the local council in The Hague since 2006.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:42:04 PM EST
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nrc.nl - International - Muslim party to take part in Dutch local elections

The Dutch Muslim Party (NMP) will take part in local elections in Amsterdam, Almere, The Hague, Rotterdam and Noordoostpolder, its president Henny Kreeft announced today. Kreeft said he is still deliberating with local NMP chapters in five other municipalities. He didn't specify which municipalities.

The NMP will present a political programme after the Muslim fasting period of Ramadan concludes at the end of September.



Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 02:54:53 PM EST
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'Sexist' Silvio Berlusconi denounced by thousands of Italian women - Times Online

More than 15,000 Italian women, including academics and scientists, have endorsed a petition attacking the "sexist policies, behaviours and discourse" of Silvio Berlusconi, a Milan academic has said.

Professor Chiara Volpato, from the University of Milan-Bicocca, said that thousands of women responded to an internet appeal made in June after Italian academics urged the wives of world leaders to boycott the G8 summit to protest against the alleged antics of the Italian Prime Minister, who is embroiled in scandal over his private life.

The wives of the leaders, including Sarah Brown, ignored the appeal and joined their husbands at the summit in L'Aquila. Mr Berlusconi's wife, Veronica Lario, was noticeably absent, having announced that she planned to divorce her husband after he was pictured with Noemi Letizia, a lingerie model from Naples, at her 18th birthday party in April.

News of the women's petition came as several opposition MPs renewed their demand for Mr Berlusconi to appear before the Italian parliament to respond to allegations about his "encounters with young women".

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:45:35 PM EST
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Hooray for that. Not that anyone in Italy will find out.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 03:05:58 PM EST
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Here is the actual appeal in Italian. The appeal was made on June 2nd, in occasion of the celebration of the Republic.

You may adher or express solidarity by writing an email to "appelloperledonneATgmail.com". I see no reason why women throughout the world cannot make their voices heard in all languages.

I want to again call attention to the beautiful documentary on the state of Italian women's rights and the perception of women in Italy. Since I last pointed it out an English version has been put up.

It goes without saying that the female role models in Italy were created by Berlusconi's televisions. When I attack Berlusconi's Sophonisbas I am attacking a female mindset that I abhor. There are far too many women in Italy who aspire to lapdance for the elite male caste. This is a striking involution from the Seventies when women were in the avantguard for rights here and in Europe.

Italy is a profoundly sexist society. Women throughout the world could perhaps make a difference by paying attention to this state of affairs.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 03:34:09 AM EST
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'Germany Plan' to Lift Election Hopes: SPD Pledges to Create 4 Million New Jobs - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Germany's center-left Social Democrats, struggling to revive their flagging election campaign, will present a "Germany Plan" on Monday to eradicate unemployment by 2020 by promoting green technology. Rival parties say it's a completely unrealistic pledge that smacks of desperation.

German Deputy Chancellor Frank-Walter Steinmeier presenting his election team last week. Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the Social Democratic Party (SPD) candidate to become chancellor in the Sept. 27 election, will make a fresh attempt to revive his campaign on Monday by pledging to create 4 million jobs and create full employment by 2020.

Steinmeier, whose center-left party is trailing Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives by more than 10 points less than eight weeks before the election, will present his "Germany Plan" on Monday evening.

SPIEGEL has seen the 67-page document which outlines plans to create 2 million jobs in industry through improved efficiency in the consumption of energy and raw materials and by promoting green technologies such as electrically-powered cars.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:48:31 PM EST
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Methinks this is too late to be taken seriously.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 02:01:48 AM EST
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FT.com / Companies / Utilities - Enel and EDF plan nuclear joint venture
Enel and Electricité de France have created a joint venture to assess the feasibility of building at least four nuclear power plants in Italy, marking the latest stage in the relaunch of the country's nuclear industry more than 20 years after it was rejected by the public.

The new venture, known as Sviluppo Nucleare Italia, will be based in Rome and follows the signing of an agreement between the heads of government of the two countries in February to restart nuclear power production in Italy.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 01:49:15 PM EST
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About bloody time too. Berlusconi hopefully on the way out and nuclear on the way in, I couldn't be happier for Italy.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 12:09:01 AM EST
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Heh. It's more that nuclear is currently on the way in thanks to B...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 01:55:34 AM EST
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you crack me up starvid, you got it backwards!

get rid of berlu, and nuclear wouldn't stand a chance here.

it boggles my mind that you see it that way, why does the right always endorse top down energy policies, and undermine ecological alternatives?

because they know the people would prefer conserve, not take any more risks on the future, and invest in tech with no downside, and that's why cover-ups and outright lies are the norm for them, but people are a lot less credulous than the old 'atoms for peace' or 'energy too cheap to meter' days.

italians can't run anything, you want them running nuke plants a few hundred miles from you?

come see how they deal with their regular waste, and tell me you want them to be responsible for the nuclear variety.

the mafia will be selling shit to any moron with a death wish and a few million to spend, the cops will find a 'dirty' bomb (not those nice 'clean' ones) factory somewhere, and it's sayonara civil rights and society as we know it, welcome to the new lockdown, same as the old lockdown, but with much better tech.

i'd wager the people will not go willingly down that road, we'll have to wait and see...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 02:22:22 AM EST
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A recent bill would make it all but impossible to build wind farms in Italy- or better, make it possible only for those who are linked to the political caste.

The nuclear energy farrago is yet another occasion of rampant corruption.

The mafias have enormous wealth that needs recycling. Energy is just another business venture with laws tailor-made to encourage corruption and impunity.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 03:39:39 AM EST
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An extra 4 points for the Word of the Day:
farrago |fəˈrägō; -ˈrā-|
noun ( pl. -goes)
a confused mixture : a farrago of fact and myth about Abraham Lincoln. See note at jumble.
DERIVATIVE:
farraginous |fəˈrajənəs| |fəˈrødʒənəs| |fəˈrɑːdʒɪnəs| |-ˈreɪdʒ-| adjective
ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Latin, literally `mixed fodder,' from far `corn.'

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 07:21:20 AM EST
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I owe a Hatlo hat tip to David Habakkuk for introducing the word into my vocabulary.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 08:28:38 AM EST
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nrc.nl - International - Organised crime eludes police despite crackdown


Police have closed down many illegal cannabis plantations, but they hardly ever investigate who is making money from them. That is the conclusion of an investigation by the Brabant detective force into organised crime in the cannabis trade in six police regions in the south of the Netherlands.

The result are confirmed by public prosecutor Gerrit van de Burg in Den Bosch, who heads the national task force for the fight against cannabis plantations.

In 2004, the Dutch government announced a crackdown on organised crime in the cannabis cultivation sector. It was to be a concerted effort by police, local authorities, housing associations and energy companies.

But according to detective Stephan van Nimwegen, who headed the investigation, police departments still give cannabis plantations low priority compared with murder, robbery or hard drugs investigations.

Van Nimwegen said closing down cannabis plantations was "fighting the symptoms".

by Nomad on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 02:03:18 PM EST
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Let's be honest, allowing cannabis to be de-criminalised, but allowing its supply to remain in the hands of criminals is just asking for trouble.

It's also cowardly.

Legalise and tax it (and outlaw skunk)

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 03:08:28 PM EST
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Nomad:
police departments still give cannabis plantations low priority compared with murder, robbery or hard drugs investigations.

I should think so too.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 03:35:00 AM EST
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Al Jazeera English - Europe - Georgia accuses Russia of land grab

Georgia's foreign ministry has accused Russia of attempting to move the South Ossetian border deeper into Georgian territory, increasing tensions between Tbilisi and Moscow.

The ministry said Russian troops entered the village of Kveshi, near South Ossetia on Sunday, with the aim of creating a new border.

But EU monitors said Russian border guards had assured them they had no plans to move their checkpoint to the new area.

Georgia's accusation comes days before the first anniversary of the Russia-Georgia war, which was fought over the breakaway province.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 02:04:03 PM EST
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FT.com / India / Companies - Indian IT sector hits out at Europe
India's fast-growing information technology outsourcing sector has hit out at the red tape of the consular regimes of many European Union countries, saying that they form formidable protectionist barriers against services exports to the trading bloc.

A survey by the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, published on Monday, lambasted the difficulties of gaining work permits for IT professionals, their spouses, and the often unreasonably short duration of visas. It said visas often restricted workers to one country, or even one city, thereby hindering Indian companies from reaping economies of scale by doing bulk work for multiple countries.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 02:13:42 PM EST
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I think you'll find that's the point.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 03:09:49 PM EST
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UK manufacturing 'pulls out of nosedive' in July - Times Online
British manufacturing grew for the first time in 16 months during July, boosted by the fastest flow of new orders since November 2007.

According to the Chartered Institute of Purchasing & Supply (CIPS), the Purchasing Managers Index, which measures activity in the manufacturing sector, rose from a reading of 47.4 to 50.8 between June and July. It is the first time the measure has risen above 50, the dividing line between contraction and growth, since March 2008.

David Noble, chief executive of CIPS said: "The manufacturing sector has clearly pulled out of the nosedive it was in earlier this year and is no longer plummeting." He said customers had cut inventories so severely in the downturn that they were now in need of new stock in order to meet improved sales. However, Mr Noble warned it was still early days and said smaller businesses continued to bear the brunt of the recession.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 02:26:22 PM EST
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See also the Telegraph link in the Economy section.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 02:28:36 PM EST
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Asia Times Online : China dips its toe in the Black Sea
However, in a stunning development, China entered the fray this month and signed an agreement to loan $1 billion to Moldova at a highly favorable 3% interest rate over 15 years with a five-year grace period on interest payments. The money will be channeled through Covec, China's construction leviathan, as project exports in fields such as energy modernization, water systems, treatment plants, agriculture and high-tech industries.

Curiously, China has offered that it is prepared to "guarantee financing for all projects considered necessary and justified by the Moldovan side" over and above the $1 billion loan. In effect, Beijing has signaled its willingness to underwrite the entire Moldovan economy which has an estimated gross domestic product of $8 billion and a paltry budget of $1.5 billion.


"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:00:12 PM EST
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Anyone got any idea what this is about ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:06:43 PM EST
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Sovereign funds buy sovereignty - presumably...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:25:09 PM EST
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To what purpose ? I mean, if you buy a country, you must want it for a reason (unless they're collecting - mongolia, Tibet, Moldova)

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:30:35 PM EST
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Come on Helen, you're not thinking like a great power.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 05:13:16 PM EST
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Maybe they're getting closer for a move on DoDo...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 05:41:01 PM EST
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I would presume access to some commodity (agricultural, probably, or maybe a metal - I see some mention of bauxite on the google). But it is indeed strange. maybe an elaborate diplomatic game with Russia?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:45:04 PM EST
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A way to have a mole-like presence in the EU also...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 05:45:43 PM EST
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The Chinese, flush with cash and recalling the New Testament story where Christ turns water to wine, have hopes that someone, some day will discover a way to profitably turn wine, or sunflower seeds, into petroleum or some such commodity.  It's an investment in a beautiful little country.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 12:40:32 PM EST
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I shall note that Moldova does not have a Black Sea shore, being landlocked... which is less a nitpick and more an indication of other imprecisions in the article regarding Moldova. (Voronin was on the way out not because of elections but the end of his term, the Communists still got 45% after a mere 5% swing, etc., and the President-electing gridlock with neither side having 61 seats continues.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 02:15:06 AM EST
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(In fact, the Communists still got more votes and seats than the three April 2009 opposition parties, the new majority includes a fourth party that includes a Communist defector.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 02:19:26 AM EST
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War protest migrants may face passport penalties | UK news | guardian.co.uk
New migrants who demonstrate an "active disregard for UK values", possibly including protesting at homecoming parades of troops from Afghanistan, could find their applications for a British passport blocked under new citizenship proposals published today.

But migrants who contribute to the "democratic life of the country" by canvassing for political parties could find the application process speeded up so that it takes one year instead of three.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:05:18 PM EST
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Cos god forbid that free speech and the right to dissent should ever count as a British value.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:07:26 PM EST
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Nato head Anders Fogh Rasmussen calls for partnership with Russia | World news | guardian.co.uk
The new Nato secretary general today called for a "strategic partnership" with Russia a year after the Kremlin's war in Georgia triggered the worst tension between Moscow and the west for nearly 20 years.

In his first public appearance since he took up the post, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the former Danish prime minister, said good relations with Russia were a priority during his five-year tenure. His statement will worry Nato members of central Europe and the Baltic who are protesting to the White House over Barack Obama's recent overtures to the Kremlin.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 at 04:09:54 PM EST
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Let him send the Danish army if he wants. Anyone still thinking that Rasmussen was a good choice for Europe?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 02:21:15 AM EST
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Did anyone ever think that?

Anyway, you may be getting the article wrong as Rasmussen said absolutely nothing controversial, he's actually surprisingly reasonable in allegedly prioritising relationships with Russia.

I'd rather question how serious he is about what he says, and whether he can deliver (well, I know he probably can't, because NATO as in the organisation NATO can do preciously little without consensus among its members).

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 11:56:02 AM EST
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D'oh! This was a misplaced comment. It was meant as reply for the other article on Rasmussen downthread...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 01:13:01 PM EST
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OK, that makes sense.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 01:58:40 PM EST
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Italy - The wrong way round
RAI, the state-owned TV channel, recently launched a new satellite platform, owned jointly with Mediaset, the Prime Minister's company. RAI and Mediaset own 48.25% each of the project, with Telecom Italia owning 3.5%. An unnamed Milan stock analyst, quoted by DowJones Newswires, said that "Sky may have to worry about the possibility of losing 40% of its audience, which is attached to RAI and traditional free-to-air channels", which hitherto have been available on the Sky satellite. Some of RAI's channels have already been pulled from Sky viewers, and others may be in future. The analyst went on to say that "in the medium term, this is a move that may benefit Mediaset". President Napolitano has expressed some concern about this issue - which is certainly a blatant case of using the machinery of the Italian state in order to benefit the private business interests of the prime minister - but it seems highly unlikely that he will intervene in any way.

is that why you can get Current TV on sky, which does devastating documentaries about Genoa and Berlu?

expect more Times articles slagging His Phallus?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Aug 4th, 2009 at 05:34:42 AM EST
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