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I took part on the London Gay Pride march yesterday, well half of it anyway cos I ducked out halfway through to go elsewhere.

It was fun, but with the route packed with applauding onlookers I was forced to question what there is left to prove. In fact, my Mum asked that very question this mroning.

All I can say is that being gay may well be pretty much accepted in London, even being trans isn't that much of a deal, but that isn't true for the rest of the country. Some regions of Britain, particularly the more rural places, more or less might as well be nigeria when it comes to absence of tolerance.

So, having  large (and accepted) march/party is more about broadcasting a message of tolerance to the rest of the country than it is to satisfy any need for the (rather smug and self-satisfied) gay community within London. Maybe that's me being patronising towards the rest of the country, but it can be difficult.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 11:05:56 AM EST
The American beer fest was too packed to be fun. It took ages getting served so I ended up drinking pints of very expensive beer simply because half pints made no sense.

however, my beer of the festival was, without any doubt, Stone Ruination IPA. With a bitterness count of over 100 it was absolutely fabulous. It's called Ruination cos that's what it does to your palete, after that you cna't drink anything else. Not that I wanted to.

I had it on both cask and keg (an ordering mistake), but the cask was so much better (being warm enough to taste helped).

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 11:11:26 AM EST
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I tried a Tommyknocker's Pick Axe Pale Ale last week in Idaho Springs, Colorado (in mountains west of Denver). Supposedly a terrific beer, but frankly I can't get past wanting a simple Guinness...

http://tommyknocker.com/idahoSprings.html

by asdf on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 11:31:25 AM EST
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Man, I'd really love to live in the mountains out west.  Outrageously pretty.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 11:54:34 AM EST
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Wow, when was the first picture taken ? It's great to see pubs with history like that. Especially if they do good beer (tho the hankering for guinness shames you :-)).

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 12:47:20 PM EST
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I actually found out that they have stone at a couple of the higher-end supermarkets here, and I've been meaning to check it out since seeing the list you had for the festival, but I just haven't gotten round to it yet.  Checked out their website, and they had something interesting-sounding stuff.

Still waiting on a reply from the Greene King distributor here on whether they'll get Olde Trip at some point (and hoping Greene King doesn't ruin it now that Kimberley's not doing it anymore.  I emailed a guy in Britain who said he could ship it over, but the cost was obscene.  £95 for 10 bottles.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 11:57:55 AM EST
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Which reminds me, I have souvenir of the festival which I'll have to work out to get to you somehow.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 12:48:30 PM EST
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Oh?  Do tell.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 01:00:24 PM EST
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they seriously overcharged me for my first round, so I presumed they'd sold me the festival souvenir glasses. So I kept them.

It's very nice with 3 US brewery names on.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 01:08:11 PM EST
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Oh, good call.  

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 01:19:49 PM EST
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There is still an absolute need to keep sending out a strong message of gay pride.

Change and repent, bishop tells gays - Telegraph

The Bishop of Rochester, Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, has defended traditional biblical teachings on homosexuality and said the Church should not be "rolled over by culture".

It may have felt like everyone in London was on your side at the Pride March but gay people are still persecuted across the UK.  For some young gay kid who is too terrified to come out, Pride gives hope.

Ad astra per aspera

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 11:34:29 AM EST
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I believe there was a time, not too long ago, when the christian church felt it was an article of faith that god have sanctioned white men such dominion over the earth that they were allowed to enslave those of other, lesser, cultures. Funny how the strikingly brown Bishop Nazir-Ali doesn't still hold to that particular pillar of Faith.

However much f..wits like him believe that the canon is eternal, all faith is a cultural phenomenon and that which doesn't adapt, dies. Christianity has done back flips before in order to survive and will do so again. All of this hoo-hah about homosexuality is just political in-fighting between factions within the hierarchy. All sound and fury, signifying nothing (but pain for the gays whose lives are mere collateral damage)

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 12:57:37 PM EST
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I'd add its there to remind yourselves that the past isn't that far away, and it isn't far to slide back to the bad old days.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 5th, 2009 at 11:36:28 AM EST
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