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thanks, good explanation.

bridging these disciplines is very important for the future of science and enthusiasm to learn it, i think.

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 12th, 2009 at 07:14:46 AM EST
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What "disciplines" are being "bridged" here? Physics and Common Sense? Bridging them means to learn about the physical world thereby acquiring "physical intuition" which supersedes "common sense" like modern physics supersedes Aristotelian physics.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 12th, 2009 at 01:08:28 PM EST
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The problem is one of cognitive linguistics, not of physics

there are two right there, if i'm not mistaken.

then there was your comment about ontology and QT, two more...

or aren't they disciplines?

you could have just said: 'it'll never happen, unless you do the math homework first', but you tried to help brodix understand why his questions were mis-premised, and in doing so, helped me inch forward.

sometimes even realising how ignorant one is, is a kind of knowledge, (how valuable i guess depends...)

;)

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 12th, 2009 at 05:07:30 PM EST
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I'm glad you think that was a helpful response because to me it feels like hitting brodix over the head with "you're not even wrong" repeatedly and then telling him to go read a book, like the other physicists say when they brush him off. Hence the 'ugh'.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 12th, 2009 at 05:21:58 PM EST
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no, to me it was more like you're tapping him on the shoulder, going, 'you need to fully understand X before you can race ahead and jump to conclusions about Y.'

but i went to the agonist to groove on possible further discussion of your mega comment, and it's not there.

°çéé&&%$!

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 12th, 2009 at 05:34:12 PM EST
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I'll sit with the guy and teach him general relativity from scratch - but I won't entertain a debate with a layperson on whether the standard cosmological model is "logical" in "common-sense" terms. It is not, period, and that doesn't tell you the theory is suspect, but common sense is flawed.

The peak-to-trough part of the business cycle is an outlier. Carnot would have died laughing.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 12th, 2009 at 05:47:03 PM EST
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