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What's peculiar about that mindset? There are others you can't get into, surely.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:28:14 AM EST
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Well, I can normally dream up a set of axioms in which the point of view makes sense: I think the problem here might be that I'm trying to avoid attributing some unpleasant axioms to the Atlanticist crowd.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:30:45 AM EST
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Yes, that's what I suspect too, and it speaks highly of your sense of diplomacy.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:31:49 AM EST
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I think this paragraph really cuts to the core of the assumptions underpinning the NATO fan club (my bold):

At the same time, Europe is getting increasingly dependent on the US' ability to provide security and serve as the guarantor of peace. A more assertive and less predictable Russia reminds Europeans that their lives would be much less convenient if it wasn't for the US nuclear umbrella. Issues such as Iran, piracy, and Palestine are of vital interest to Europeans but rely on a strong US to be resolved. Even the European Union's own attempt to become a producer of security, the European Security and Defense Policy, has proven to be largely dependent on NATO and American assets. If Washington, for a sheer lack of resources, is forced to concentrate its diminished assets on a few select hot issues, Europe, incapable of defending itself, could end up being a significantly less comfy place to live in.

I'll take a stab at translating the bolded parts:

  • A more assertive and less predictable Russia: Russia is a threat that can (should) be faced down militarily (just like in the good old days of Ronnie Raygun and Star Wars).

  • the US nuclear umbrella: The Americans are willing to defend their allies. The French are not.

  • Iran: The State Department's bogeyman of the week is a real and serious threat to the continued survival of Western CivilisationTM. See the bullet about Russia for how to deal with threats.

  • piracy: Europe cannot police the sea lanes (or even our own territory) without American help.

  • Palestine: The Muslims in the Middle East are a Threat To Western CivilisationTM. See above for how to respond to threats.

  • rely on a strong US to be resolved: Europe cannot defend our interests without American help (see above) and the US can do no wrong, except for not being strong enough in confronting the Existential Threats To Western CivilisationTM, and blinking first in the spaghetti-western-style staredown that this reduces foreign policy to.

So basically I think it sums up to a lot of [Europe.Is.Doomed™ Alert] and [Neocon Moment Alert] with an extra helping of Conventional Wisdom on the subject of what constitutes European strategic interests and what the threats to said interests are.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 02:06:04 PM EST
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Oh, and [Starvid's Rysskräck Technology™] . Lots and lots of [Starvid's Rysskräck Technology™] .

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 02:08:47 PM EST
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