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Atlantic Community:Open Think Tank Article "New NATO Concept a Chance for Europe to Recommit to Alliance"
European governments must finally get straight with their populations on what's ahead. Yes, the world is an increasingly insecure place. No, the US won't be prepared to carry the burden alone any longer. Yes, that means more and smarter spending on unpopular stuff, more engagement, and most certainly more casualties. No, this isn't war-mongering, this is the 21st century. Say it publicly. Say it now.

The assumption is clear that the US bears the burden of defending Europe from the world's insecurity.

By the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan? But weren't they in reaction to a threat to America's security?

By the nuclear umbrella? But against whom? It's in Russia's interests to threaten Europe with nuclear destruction?

this is the 21st century

Meaningless rhetoric, worn out long ago by neocon overuse.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:29:08 AM EST
afew:
No, this isn't war-mongering, this is the 21st century. Say it publicly. Say it now.
Is Atlantic Community a mouthpiece for Europe's Military Industrial Complex?

That's the only explanation for this drivel that makes economic sense.

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:30:21 AM EST
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The propaganda budget remains impressive, however.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:31:51 AM EST
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of course... it takes a lot of splainin' to us bubble-weary europeans to understand why we should be so scared of the russians, who are already buying heavily into europe.

why would they want to bomb us? to take over our corrupt economies?

to eat our lunch?

they need us viable like china needs the usa and the rest of the world, to trade with.

the neolibs taught us that surely?

the clash of the titans stuff is s-o-o yesterday, the public is way over that, but the legal gunrunners, they need fear like bread needs butter.

ooo big scary russians!

i liked seeing medvedev and obama together, young, smiling, naturally wary, yet engaging.

gives me hope, again

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 09:04:15 AM EST
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By the nuclear umbrella? But against whom? It's in Russia's interests to threaten Europe with nuclear destruction?

Hey, you don't ask such questions. Russia is a Menance, they just threaten. (And, to be fair, it could be argued that a nuclear umbrella applies against large-sacale conventional threats, too.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:36:44 AM EST
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Yes, the world is an increasingly insecure place.

Aren't the neolibs/neocons the first ones to point out that democracy (tm) has spread over the past 20 years, and that the number of actual wars (international and internal) has never been lower today?

Aren't they also saying that the supposed new threats are of the kind that does not have easy military solutions (terrorism, digital warfare)?

Aren't they building that discourse on the fact that the very causes of insecurity (market labor "flexibility", deregulation, capital volatility) that they use to play fearmongerers have even less of a military answer?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:37:31 AM EST
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Jerome a Paris:
Yes, the world is an increasingly insecure place.
Aren't the neolibs/neocons the first ones to point out that democracy (tm) has spread over the past 20 years, and that the number of actual wars (international and internal) has never been lower today?
But not in the same sentence. See EUROPE.IS.SO.DOOMED. Narrative Edition by kcurie on May 12th, 2008:
Today, we will visit a textbook example of how narratives interact with each other to create semi-structural myths which in turn can get close to losing internal coherence.

...

... You can say completely contradictory things at different times, but not at the same time. This is the only way we have to generate converts to the enlightenment movement.

In other words, only when a statement or discourse is in direct contradiction with itself and immediate reality can we reach the guys at the other side of our enlightenment narrative/mythology. But we have to reach them, otherwise, they will forget.



A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 8th, 2009 at 06:41:59 AM EST
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