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Yeah, good luck with that.  As long as the typical American happily weighs more than a European car, the food companies have nothing to worry about.

This is, after all, the country in which the morbidly obese can sue airlines for charging them extra because they require two seats.  And win.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 12:57:21 PM EST
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Can smokers sue airlines any longer for throwing them out of the plain if they light up?

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 01:08:36 PM EST
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No, but smoking is a choice.  Being fat and taking up half of my seat is not, for some reason.

(Note: Yes, I know for some people being fat is not a choice.  I submit, however, that they are an incredibly small minority.)

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 01:12:57 PM EST
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There is a big industry whose profits depend on super-sized portions. That's like the tobacco industry.

Tobacco is addictive and so is food and some people have metabolic issues, too...

Unlike with tobacco, there isn't a "passive eater"...

A man of words and not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds; a man of deeds and not of words is like a garden full of turds — Anonymous

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 01:44:18 PM EST
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Unlike with tobacco, there isn't a "passive eater"...

Yes, hmmm, well, children usually get the diet of their parents, so there is some kind of secondary negative effect to poor diets, too.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 04:40:25 PM EST
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Not to mention things like the higher cost of healthcare for everyone, the suffering of factory farmed animals, and the way we're killing the planet in order to protect the rights of Americans to consume as much as humanly possible...  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 04:50:30 PM EST
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Not necessarily on the health care.  The findings I've read on it actually suggest the obese and smokers are cheaper to society over their lifetimes than healthy people, due to the fact that they generally die much earlier.

I wouldn't base an opinion on those reports, and much of it probably depends on how much they nickel and dime each group, but I think, on balance, the evidence suggests that there's not an enormous difference in cost to society.  If anything, smokers and the obese may be a little cheaper.

The rest I agree with you on, although, really, I can't personally claim to be innocent in the "consume lots" department.  I'm sure I consume more than I should.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 05:32:34 PM EST
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you've obviously never shared a flight with an obese neighbour, complete with supersize passive farting...

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 05:16:43 PM EST
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I'd suggest the preposition "on" as in "out on the plain..." ;]
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 01:15:35 PM EST
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No, apparently it's ok to ask things of smokers, but not anyone who is overweight.  It's ok to lecture people who are too thin about ruining their health and having perverse priorities, but not people who are too fat.  And I'm not talking about anyone who is less than ideal.  I'm not talking about making unrealistic demands on people.  No, question people who make the personal choice to spend of hours in front of the tv mindlessly eating crap, and you are discriminating against them.  I've no doubt they really are discriminated against, by prospective employers, etc.  But asking people to accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions?  That's not discrimination.  I make the personal choice to smoke occasionally.  As a result, I'm singled out for tax, I'm banned from entering anywhere but my home while doing it, and scowled at by passersby.  And I'm ok with that.  But if it were a bag of Cheetos in my hand and not a cigarette, I'd be off scott free.  I'd get two seats for the price of one.

wtf?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 01:34:50 PM EST
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I'm not bitter or anything. :)  Seriously, I've gained a good 5 lbs since the smoking ban took effect.  


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 01:37:08 PM EST
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good five pounds? is it only the bad ten after that that you'd have to worry about? ;)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Jul 9th, 2009 at 06:58:41 PM EST
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Actually, I saw the dr last night, and science refuted my suspicion.  So make that an imaginary 5 lbs.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:13:03 PM EST
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There are cheaper ways to get weighed ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:26:10 PM EST
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LOL.  But not cheaper ways to get drugs, sadly.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:27:47 PM EST
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You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Jul 10th, 2009 at 04:36:14 PM EST
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