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SCF: Sweden-Israel kink that became a crisis | 59 comments (59 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Note to someone about tribext (4.00 / 3)

Note to someone: I adore the "Translate" function of TribExt v0.1234 but when translating from swedish all swedish letters - å,ä,ö - are broken and breaks the words. For example, swedish - english:

Diplomatisk fnurra blev allvarlig kris - rapport \| svt.se		Diplomatic KINK became serious crisis - report \| svt.se
framhållit		Framh ¥ llit

My guess would be that the translation tool uses different codign for swedish letters when it is read then when it is translated, as it works the other way around:

Hold

Hålla

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Aug 24th, 2009 at 10:52:15 AM EST

Re: Note to someone about tribext (4.00 / 9)

Here is are some excerpts from what Beni Tzipper had to say in his
blog in Ha'aretz

יש, באופן כללי, משהו לגמרי פרימיטיווי, שמציג אותנו כמדינה באור מגוחך, בכך שאנחנו דורשים מהמדינה השוודית לפעול נגד עיתונאי או נגד עיתון עצמאי המופיע בתחומה. נכון, יש נושאים שעליהם מותר וחובה להתריע, כמו למשל על גילויים של הכחשת שואה או של אנטישמיות. אבל כאן לא מדובר בכלל באחד משני הדברים האלה, אם כי שר החוץ המגוחך שלנו היה מת שזה כן יהיה קשור לשואה ולאנטישמיות.		There is, generally speaking, something very primitive, that makes us, as a country, look ridiculous, when we ask the Swedish government to act against a journalist, or an independent newspaper. True, there are matters that one should and must act against, such as Holocaust denial or antisemitism. But this has nothing to do with either of these two things, even though our ridiculous foreign minister would die for it to be connected to the Holocaust and to antisemitism.
בתגובת היתר של ישראל לכתבה היא מזכירה את התגובה הפרימיטיווית של המוסלמים בעולם כולו על הקריקטורה של מוחמד שהתפרסמה בדנמרק בשעתה. הדנים המסכנים לא ידעו מה לעשות כדי לשכך את הזעם, אבל הרי אנחנו יודעים שבתוך תוכם הם חשבו: "המפגרים האלה לא יודעים מה זו דמוקרטיה וחופש ביטוי, אז בואו נרגיע אותם כדי שיפסיקו לנבוח". לצערי, זה מה שעכשיו עלולים להגיד על ישראל אם היא לא תרד קצת מהעץ הגבוה שהיא עלתה עליו בעניין הזה.		The Israeli reaction to this article reminds one of the primitive reaction of Muslims in the world to the caricatures of Mohammed that appeared in Denmark. The poor Danes didn't know what to do to calm things down, after all we know that deep down they thought: "These idiots don't know what democracy and freedom of speach are, so lets calm them down so that they stop barking". To my sorrow, that is exactly what they are likely to say about Israel, if she doesn't come down from the tall tree from which she's hung herself in this matter.
זאת ועוד. אני חושב שאילו ישראל היתה מודה ולו במקצת במעשים האנטי הומניטריים שנעשו במבצע עופרת יצוקה בעזה, ונותנת גיבוי לחיילים שלה עצמה שהיה להם אומץ מספיק להודות במעשי הזוועה שחזו בהם או שעשו בעצמם, היא היתה מחזירה לעצמה את האמינות שלה כמדינה חופשית שלא מטייחת ושדבריה אמת. מה שקורה עכשיו הוא שגם אם יבואו אלף הכחשות והתנצלויות מצד שוודיה על הכתבה, עדיין השוודי מן השורה, ולפי דעתי בכלל כל אזרח מאזרחי העולם, יחשוב שההכחשה וההתנצלות השוודית הוצאה אחרי הפעלת לחץ וסחיטה רגשית, ושדווקא אולי יש דברים בגו, כי עובדה שבעזה קרו דברים איומים שמוסתרים על ידי ישראל.		Furthermore. I think that if Israel had admitted to the awful inhuman things that were done during Operation Cast Lead in Gaza, and had supported the soldiers that had the courage to admit to the awful things they witnessed or participated in, she would recover her credibility as a free country that doesn't cover things up, and tells the truth. What has happened now is that even if Sweden will apologize a thousand times for the article, the average Swede, and, in my opinion, the average person in the world, will thing that the denial and apology were forced out of Sweden by pressure and emotional blackmail, and maybe there is something behind it, as after all there awful things did happen and were covered up by Israel.

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Mon Aug 24th, 2009 at 12:55:25 PM EST
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