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Colman:
The Council President won't be democratially elected, it will be elected in the Council

Uh, the members of the Council will elect the President: sounds democratic to me.

Does not sound democratic to me.

Suppose you elect an assembly that elects an assembly that elects an assembly that meets behind closed doors to elect a person. Sure you got to vote, but put in that many steps between your vote an the last decision and you will have no influence over that last decision. (I think that is what they use in Cuba.)

Colman:

Repeat after me: the members of the EU are the states.

And I think the hallmark of democracy it that the citizens - the demos if you like - is the deciding power.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Tue Oct 6th, 2009 at 04:41:13 AM EST
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Grooks by Piet Hein
MAJORITY RULE

His party was the Brotherhood of Brothers,
and there were more of them than of the others.
That is, they constituted that minority
which formed the greater part of the majority.
Within the party, he was of the faction
that was supported by the greater fraction.
And in each group, within each group, he sought
the group that could command the most support.
The final group had finally elected
a triumvirate whom they all respected.
Now, of these three, two had final word,
because the two could overrule the third.
One of these two was relatively weak,
so one alone stood at the final peak.
He was: THE GREATER NUMBER of the pair
which formed the most part of the three that were
elected by the most of those whose boast
it was to represent the most of the most
of most of most of the entire state
-- or of the most of it at any rate.
He never gave himself a moment's slumber
but sought the welfare of the greater number.
And all people, everywhere they went,
knew to their cost exactly what it meant
to be dictated to by the majority.
But that meant nothing, -- they were the minority.

Is that about Tony Blair?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Oct 6th, 2009 at 04:51:48 AM EST
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