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Comment by Convention president Giscard at the Athens European Council in April 2003, related in the UK House of Commons report:

At the Athens summit Mr Giscard d'Estaing noted that two smaller states, Denmark and Sweden, had recently announced their support for the idea of an EU president. The creation of such a post would, he thought, help to settle the question posed by the former US Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, of whom to call in Europe in an emergency, and it could also help to prevent a repetition of the arguments that erupted over military action
in Iraq. Candidates for such a post were rumoured to include Mr Blair, Fogh Rasmussen, the Danish Prime Minister, and José María Aznar, the Spanish Prime Minister.

Now why is it that, whenever that old Kissinger chestnut is rolled out, it's always followed by something Atlanticist? And the only Serious™ candidates for "president of the EU" just happen to be Washington-petted poodles?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 30th, 2009 at 03:03:19 PM EST
It's so much more convenient when you can give your orders to just one guy, and let him do the legwork of telling everybody else.

(that Kissinger comment was before modern IT, presumably. He could just send an email, these days)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 30th, 2009 at 06:05:55 PM EST
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Candidates for such a post were rumoured to include Mr Blair, Fogh Rasmussen, the Danish Prime Minister, and José María Aznar, the Spanish Prime Minister.

<barf>

If it's a consolation, Bliar is the only one of those three who is still at large. Aznar faded back into relative obscurity after he got spanked in the '03 election and Fogh has a cushy gig at NATO, where at least he won't do any appreciable harm (NATO is already a branch of the Pentagun, so having a Quisling there doesn't really matter).

So all that's left is to hope that Bliar has an accident involving a stray bullet while visiting Palestine. But of course, that would require him actually going outside his air-conditioned hotel and - y'know, doing his job. So that's unfortunately unlikely to happen.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Sep 30th, 2009 at 06:41:28 PM EST
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with your feelings for Blair, I can't endorse wishing for his death, even of the accidental kind. Your other proposal, ie having him in a cell in the Hague, after due process, seems a lot more attractive to me.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 04:09:17 AM EST
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In all normal circumstances, I would agree with you. Both for tactical and ethical reasons.

But Hague isn't going to happen for Bliar. Hague is for brown people who speak funny. And Russians, of course. Now, if he had retired to relative obscurity, like Aznar or Bush the Lesser, I could live with that. I don't think that Bush or Aznar are going to be in a position where they can murder people again. Bliar is actively planning to assume such a position (or at least his faction of oligarchs is).

Or to put it another way, would you have been similarly shocked if I had expressed happiness with the passing of Pinochet, Castro or Milosevic? Almost by any accounting, Bliar has more blood on his hands - and a smaller prospect of ever facing determined prosecution for it - than the other three did when they were alive.

</hijack>

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 05:22:09 AM EST
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A question that isn't being asked is - who's in the faction of oligarchs?

We don't know who's pulling his rather jerky strings. This could be a useful thing to find out.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 06:29:10 AM EST
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Why is Mandelson still around? Who are his powerful friends that made him such a valuable ally to Brown that he had to bring him back from Brussels to manage a "business" portfolio? And why was he such a valuable ally to Blair that he brought him back from resigning a cabinet post not once but twice?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 06:53:56 AM EST
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Helen:
Telegraph - Rat plans to leave sinking ship Lord Mandelson: I would work for Tories

In an interview, the Business Secretary said he would be willing to put his experience at the disposal of the country, if Labour lost power. "As I grow older, I can imagine more ways of serving my country than simply being a party politician," he said.

The best way he has ever served the ocuntry was when he was (serially) walking out of downing St having been sacked.

What is Mandelson (or the Torygraph) playing at? The following doesn't sound like a job application...

ceebs:

John Rentoul - Flibbertiwhat?
My esteemed colleague Andrew Grice noticed Peter Mandelson's description in his speech today of David Cameron as a "shallow flibbertigibbet", and says it is a word he has not heard for some time.


En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 07:04:28 AM EST
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