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If I were the Brits, I would not want to have that role set out to become very powerful, given France's experience in capturing a large number of international positions (think that right now, the heads of the IMF, WTO and ECB are French, and not long ago, you also had the bosses of EBRD, OECD and others I forget)...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Sep 30th, 2009 at 06:03:57 PM EST
But the Brits have successfully mentally captured France, so...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 30th, 2009 at 06:17:37 PM EST
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but hopefully and likely reversible.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 03:45:51 AM EST
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Jerome a Paris:

"There is no longer an Anglo-Saxon world and a European world," said Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president,

Because of the capitulation of the European elites, encouraged and pushed by people like Sarkozy (and the ThirdWayers who put the left in such a discredited mess as a result)



En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 04:47:43 AM EST
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When was the last time you had sane foreign policy coming out of Downing Street?

Snark aside, I don't believe that this is about long term Franco-British balance of power for the people pushing Tory Bliar. As long as Bliar can hold on to that gig long enough to repay his backers for their support, it's a net win. Britain, in this calculus, is expendable - the private interests of the pro-Bliar faction of the British oligarchs are not.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Sep 30th, 2009 at 06:55:12 PM EST
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sadly, this seems to be an increasingly common theme in many countries (France, the US, Russia come to mind) - the take over of governmental powers by a very, very narrow caste, constituted of a small number of billionaire tycoons or the like.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 03:47:27 AM EST
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When you attack the idea of the common good to the point of eroding the public service ethos of the civil service, what else is left but oligarchy?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 04:46:32 AM EST
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This can be seen as the logical progression of capitalism as the socio-economic paradigm towards a conclusion.  All aspects of society are subordinated to the perceived needs of dominant capital, which is represented by the most profitable corporations.  This follows the post-Marxist analysis of Nitzan and Bichler in Capital as Power. where there are alternating regimes of "breadth" and "depth".  Regimes of breadth involve extending the system into new areas, such as the former Soviet Union, India and China and converting societies from subsistence to market based orientations. Regimes of depth involve making the differential accumulation abilities of the dominant corporations more effective, such as killing, assimilating or neutering your competitors. Breadth regimes tend to be associated with times of economic expansion while depth regimes tend to be associated with times of contraction.

Thus, as the capitalist paradigm has totally triumphed in much of the world, power has come to be further and further concentrated into the possession of a few dominant organizations who have effected a relatively complete mental capture of the political processes of the various countries in which they operate. The value of this is that when the profitability of these dominant organizations fail, as in 2008, they can rely on their capture of the government to insure their survival even in the face of their failure at their primary tasks.

The end of this process is that hereditary feudalism based on serfdom is replaced by financial feudalism based on debt slavery.  

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 11:17:54 AM EST
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Well, the historical evidence is that the Brits were all for it, and the government is apparently backing Blair officially. And currently, France is not doing so well in gaining top jobs in the EU...

Sarkozy can always imagine working well with Blair, which of course Chirac could not.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Oct 1st, 2009 at 01:31:17 AM EST
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