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That would take all the fun out of it.

I would have thought you'd appreciate the opportunity to state your position in the form of a unified argument, instead of in dribs and drabs.

But what do I know?

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 04:20:45 AM EST
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While it may cause some participants to hold their noses, the attached from the excellent series on Europe being run by the Daily Telegraph may be of interest. Debate on the future budgetary system will centre on the idea proposed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/6194800/EU-farms-cash-is-the-root-of-conflict.html

by DOCM on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 08:01:38 AM EST
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Surely it would be equally as valid to say that farms cash is a squalid excuse used by petty nationalists and denialists to perpetuate their disruption of the European project?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 08:12:37 AM EST
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Write a diary about it rather than send us to read Eurosceptic "think tank" stuff in a campaigning anti-European newspaper.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 08:25:45 AM EST
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"Move to strike as non-responsive, Your Honor!"

I take it you're not used to discourse on Scoop-type community blogs.

The point of diaries is that each of us does our own "heavy lifting": each one of us has the opportunity to present something - an incident, report, situation - and analyze it, and explain why we find merit in it, or why we don't.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 10:30:46 AM EST
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The reasoning in these responses leaves me flabbergasted.

You take it upon yourselves to qualify some sources as "eurosceptic" and, therefore, to be unworthy of consideration.

Why not organize a book-burning while you are at it?

For the record, I post for an audience wider than the responses that I get. It is up to that audience, if there is any, to come to its own opinion.

by DOCM on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 03:44:15 PM EST
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I'm amazed that you're flabbergasted, if you had read much of the writing on this site, you would see that although it is a pro european site in general, we, between us have spent a large ammount of time considering eurosceptic positions and publications. Much Eurosceptic writing is indeed unworthy of consideration, in that it is characterised by lunatic nationalism, circular arguments, and argument aimed at moving towards a pre-aranged position, rather than arguing from observations and facts. (To me a lot of euroscepticism seems to be like a particularly cultish religion)

To say that we are akin to book burners, because we aren't bowing down before the Idols of a lunatic cult is particularly insulting

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 03:59:56 PM EST
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Vigorous debate isn't fun any more, DOCM? :-)

(I must admit the notion that I'm a Nazi because I consider the Daily Telegraph to be a Eurosceptic newspaper has me smiling).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 04:05:47 PM EST
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DOCM:
For the record, I post for an audience wider than the responses that I get. It is up to that audience, if there is any, to come to its own opinion.

The responses you got are pretty much typical of the audience of this site.

DOCM:

You take it upon yourselves to qualify some sources as "eurosceptic" and, therefore, to be unworthy of consideration.

As highlighted by ceebs above, we have seen a lot of Eurosceptic "material" and we generally don't find it worth of much consideration, if any. You may of course have a different opinion and it is indeed your prerogative.

DOCM:

Why not organize a book-burning while you are at it?

As you know very well, nobody mentioned anything close to book burning whatsoever.
As afew went into great lengths explaining the site operation to you, you are welcome to express your opinions and engage in a debate with other members, if you wish to do so.

However, you might want to check the attitude.


Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 04:21:59 PM EST
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The reasoning in these responses leaves me flabbergasted.

New User Guide.

You take it upon yourselves to qualify some sources as "eurosceptic" and, therefore, to be unworthy of consideration.

Doggerel. Why I won't read your book.

Why not organize a book-burning while you are at it?

Galileo Gambit. Godwin Alert.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Sep 20th, 2009 at 05:34:11 PM EST
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You haven't read a word I've written.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Sep 21st, 2009 at 05:49:40 AM EST
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