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Thank you for interesting diary and nice and informative photos.Unfortunately I just had a chance to spend 8 hours on Bangkok's airport once...It was the day when Prices Diana died and I saw it on TV there.
It looks like the world generally progressed a lot in last 10-20 years...standard of life wise.Actually I am under impression (that may be wrong) that places like Asia and South America (and probably East Europe and Russia) that we used to believe are poor and not very "livable" (compering to Western world) actually progressed much more then Western world it self ( excluding USA I suppose).
I recently saw some photos from Brazil for example( friend spent a year working there) and it's fantastic place...I know that there are slums in Brazil (but they exist everywhere ... (homeless people are in huge numbers in USA too) but generally standard of life improved worldwide and especially in those countries that were considered poor.OK those who has oil are obviously better of now but not only them.
Definitely this recession will make a difference in lives for people individually but we are yet to see what it is going to mean for different communities and nations on a larger scale.They say we are all borrowing our way out from this recession...Who is landing ? It looks like we are still " creating " money ( values) that does not exist?
by vbo on Sun Sep 13th, 2009 at 08:21:19 PM EST
There are now people like "us" pretty much all over the world except Africa. But with the population growth of the last century, the number of people either dirt poor or living outside of the globalised money economy is still increasing...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 08:43:14 AM EST
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There is a globalization of the middle class and a thirdworldization of the first world. And Africa to the dogs, unfortunately.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 09:09:29 AM EST
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There's also a third world ization of the third world. It's harder for the poors of the world to remain out of mainstream globalisation and money economy ; people who lived in autarcy become destitute in the modern world.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 09:28:57 AM EST
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There is a globalization of the middle class and a thirdworldization of the first world
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Interesting expression...and probably true...
by vbo on Mon Sep 21st, 2009 at 08:21:23 AM EST
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thank you for your first letter reply to my diaries. indeed bangkok is very developed though this cannot be said yet about the rest of the region especially cambodia and laos. but the presence of bangkok will eventually lift them out of poverty.

i made some statements which i did not explain. for example about mild recession. i was thinking about it not because nobody is suffering but because i was reminded by mr Sachs how painful was transition from autarcic to market economy in some countries in the end of the last century (including Yugoslavia).

Much water has flown since then. Now the West after disastrous Bush presidencies (and many missed opportunities during Clinton era) is much weaker. Many countries like China, Russia, India, Brazil and even Thailand were better prepared to withstand global recession. They are propping up smaller regimes around their perifery for example supporting their budgets and currencies. Kyrgyzstan is clear example in this regard.

That's why all does not seem so bad unlike 1980's or 1990's which were very bad almost everywhere (perhaps except China which however experienced political and ethnic turmoil at the time).

by FarEasterner on Thu Sep 17th, 2009 at 12:32:08 PM EST
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