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All animal bone would work. Locate next to slaughter houses or rail facilities. Plus I have read of a coming phosphorus shortage to the alleviation of which this could provide a renewable pathway. Another profitable byproduct. But this is unlikely to scale to the required degree either.

My thought was to use naturally occurring magnesium, Calcium and Potassium from sea water. The relative abundance of elements in sea water, expressed as a percentage by mass is:

*Cl -- 1.94%
*Na -- 1.08%  -- NaCO3 and soda ash
*Mg -- 0.192% -- MgCO3 or chalk
*S  -- 0.900%
*Ca -- 0.410% -- CaCO3 or limestone
*K  -- ).385% -- K2Co3 or potash

A solar or wind powered unit could turn atmospheric CO2 and elements from sea water into four useful families of chemicals and water that is mostly fresh. React some of the metals with the dissolved sulfur and you would have water that is agriculturally useful. All that is required is long term thinking.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 06:10:36 PM EST
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Interestingly, sea water contains mostly chloride and sulfate, the amount of carbonate being negligible. However
although seawater contains about 2.8 times the bicarbonate than river water based on molarity, the percentage of bicarbonate in seawater as a ratio of all dissolved ions is far lower than in river water. Bicarbonate ions also constitute 48% of river water solutes, but only 0.41% of all seawater ions.
Again, as upthread, I wonder whether simply bubbling CO2 through seawater would lead to precipitation of carbonates.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 06:22:24 PM EST
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I wonder whether simply bubbling CO2 through seawater would lead to precipitation of carbonates.

Possibly so, but almost certainly this could be performed at optimal efficiency by controlling temperature and pressure. It is possible that each salt could in turn be precipitated for commercial collection and that this could offset or pay for the operating cost if sold at the marginal cost of the mined product.

Phosphorus from bone could be a genuine profit maker, and facilities located along arid coasts such as Pt. Conception south to the tip of Baha and also along the eastern shore of the Sea of Cortez could provide usable water for agricultural irrigation or domestic water supplies.  

Plus, a decision to manufacture such systems on a large enough scale to matter would drive down the price of solar and wind and give much needed employment. Just call it "THE WAR ON GLOBAL WARMING"!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 07:52:13 PM EST
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Phosphorus from bone could be a genuine profit maker

bone meal is very popular in organic gardening.

you think any one of these ubergeeks ever tried bubbling the fumes through seawater?

too simple? some vested interest bruised? too cheap and easy?

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by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Jan 16th, 2010 at 08:58:36 PM EST
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If that proves the most economical way to sequester CO2 from the atmosphere, that would be great. But if it doesn't lock up the CO2 for, at a minimum, hundreds of years, that would not be so good.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jan 17th, 2010 at 01:09:24 AM EST
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Thanks ARG.

why would it need to be stabilised for years, if it's going to be transformed by the plants into gases we can breathe profitably?

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jan 17th, 2010 at 08:49:33 PM EST
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